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<p>[QUOTE="CappedBustDimes, post: 282879, member: 9104"]I also feel that this is a cast copy of the JR 2 marriage. According to the authors of EARLY U.S DIMES 1796-1837 pg 46-48;</p><p>The 1800 var. 2 dime is one of the only varieties of heraldic eagle reverse dimes to be widely counterfeited. All are light in weight, ''display an uneven strike, and show a short horizontal [die crack] extending left of the crossbar of A1 on the reverse.''</p><p><br /></p><p>''Genuine coins have average strike with central weakness...'' they are also smaller in diameter than the average, authentic 19.9mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the coin in question, the obverse/reverse rims seem a bit raised and appear to be the high points of the piece, the abnormal wear pattern, and the raised pitting points to a cast copy. </p><p><br /></p><p>On a side note, be careful when referring to Breen and Red Book texts. While they provide a wealth of information covering the vast spectrum of numis.; there are also a lot inaccuracies and errata that have been noted in both. It's usually best to consult several sources in cases such as this.</p><p><br /></p><p>Although counterfeit, it is still a very interesting piece and is still valuable to a certain niche of collectors. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sources.</p><p>Davis, David J., Logan, Russell J., Lovejoy, Allen F., McCloskey, John W., Subjack, William J., Early United States Dimes 1796-1837 John Reich Collectors Society, Ypsilanti, MI 1984. p. 46-48.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://imageshack.us" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://imageshack.us" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7126/1800dimerevwu0.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CappedBustDimes, post: 282879, member: 9104"]I also feel that this is a cast copy of the JR 2 marriage. According to the authors of EARLY U.S DIMES 1796-1837 pg 46-48; The 1800 var. 2 dime is one of the only varieties of heraldic eagle reverse dimes to be widely counterfeited. All are light in weight, ''display an uneven strike, and show a short horizontal [die crack] extending left of the crossbar of A1 on the reverse.'' ''Genuine coins have average strike with central weakness...'' they are also smaller in diameter than the average, authentic 19.9mm. On the coin in question, the obverse/reverse rims seem a bit raised and appear to be the high points of the piece, the abnormal wear pattern, and the raised pitting points to a cast copy. On a side note, be careful when referring to Breen and Red Book texts. While they provide a wealth of information covering the vast spectrum of numis.; there are also a lot inaccuracies and errata that have been noted in both. It's usually best to consult several sources in cases such as this. Although counterfeit, it is still a very interesting piece and is still valuable to a certain niche of collectors. Sources. Davis, David J., Logan, Russell J., Lovejoy, Allen F., McCloskey, John W., Subjack, William J., Early United States Dimes 1796-1837 John Reich Collectors Society, Ypsilanti, MI 1984. p. 46-48. [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7126/1800dimerevwu0.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]
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