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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The Eidolon, post: 25525278, member: 102103&quot;]This one&#039;s a different type from the others in the lot.</p><p>I think it&#039;s a <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces178408.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces178408.html" rel="nofollow">Venice, Quattrino, Mario Grimani, 1604-05</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Mine&#039;s a little smaller than the example in Numista (19 vs 21 mm), but I don&#039;t think the sizes of early Italian coppers were very consistent.&nbsp; I wondered if it might be a 2 Bagattini instead, but the design on that seems <a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ars_coin_wien/223/product/venice_marino_grimani_15951605_2_bagattino_with_st_mark_head_scarce/2063594/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ars_coin_wien/223/product/venice_marino_grimani_15951605_2_bagattino_with_st_mark_head_scarce/2063594/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">quite different</a>.&nbsp; I suspect there may have been copper and billon versions of some of these older Italian states minors with varying weights.&nbsp; There should be a &quot;4&quot; underneath the feet of the Madonna on the obverse, but it&#039;s partly off the edge of the coin and hard to be sure.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1634816[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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