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<p>[QUOTE="Clavdivs, post: 3369376, member: 93702"]I have a modest example with an unusual minting error - most probably showing that the legends were cut by a different person than the artist cutting the Temple image:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]893700[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>As you can see the " S C " is reversed and the word "CLVSIT" (meaning closed) is at the 12 o'clock position ... as opposed the the coin posted above (by the OP) with "CLVSIT" at the 6 o'clock position...</p><p><br /></p><p>Inverting the coin shows the legend in the correct alignment:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]893707[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Nero. A.D. 54-68. Æ as. 9.7 gm. 28 mm. Rome mint. Struck circa A.D. 67. His laureate head right; IMP NERO CAESAR AVG GERM / The Temple of Janus, garland hung across closed doors to left, latticed windows on right; PACE P R VBIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT around; S C to either side. Sear 689. The doors of the Temple of Janus were only closed during times of peace throughout the Roman Empire. This was not a frequent occurrence. Nero was the only emperor to depict the temple on coins, and the fact that the doors are shown as closed is most likely a political statement, not a factual one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Reverse errors: SC reversed.. reverse legend starts at top right (2 o’clock) – unusual.</p><p><br /></p><p>PACE P R VBIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT</p><p><br /></p><p>PACE = peace</p><p>PR = Populus Romanum = People of Rome</p><p>VBIQ (short for VBIQUE) = everywhere</p><p>PARTA = doors</p><p>IANVM = nominative case - place of Janus</p><p>CLVSIT = closed</p><p><br /></p><p>The grammatical rendering is variable, but broadly goes something like this: "Since the <i>Pax Romana</i> [Peace of the Roman People] is everywhere on land and sea, the doors of the temple of Janus he closed." The sense of <i>temple</i> instead of <i>place</i> is implied by the accompanying depiction of the temple itself.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Curtis Clay of Harlan Berk amends the translation with the explanation that PARTA is not "doors", but the past participle of "pario", "bring forth, produce, acquire". Thus the translation correctly reads:</i></p><p><br /></p><p><i>"The Peace of the Roman People having been established everywhere, he closed (the Temple of) Janus."</i></p><p><br /></p><p>MY COIN:</p><p><br /></p><p>IMP NERO CAESAR AVG GERM / PACE PR VBIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT (obv bust R)</p><p><br /></p><p>(but temple arch to L)</p><p><br /></p><p><u><a href="http://www.parthia.com/coins/rom_w25.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.parthia.com/coins/rom_w25.jpg" rel="nofollow">Sear 689</a></u></p><p><br /></p><p>as</p><p><br /></p><p>" (bust R)</p><p><br /></p><p>" (but temple arch to L)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clavdivs, post: 3369376, member: 93702"]I have a modest example with an unusual minting error - most probably showing that the legends were cut by a different person than the artist cutting the Temple image: [ATTACH=full]893700[/ATTACH] As you can see the " S C " is reversed and the word "CLVSIT" (meaning closed) is at the 12 o'clock position ... as opposed the the coin posted above (by the OP) with "CLVSIT" at the 6 o'clock position... Inverting the coin shows the legend in the correct alignment: [ATTACH=full]893707[/ATTACH] Nero. A.D. 54-68. Æ as. 9.7 gm. 28 mm. Rome mint. Struck circa A.D. 67. His laureate head right; IMP NERO CAESAR AVG GERM / The Temple of Janus, garland hung across closed doors to left, latticed windows on right; PACE P R VBIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT around; S C to either side. Sear 689. The doors of the Temple of Janus were only closed during times of peace throughout the Roman Empire. This was not a frequent occurrence. Nero was the only emperor to depict the temple on coins, and the fact that the doors are shown as closed is most likely a political statement, not a factual one. Reverse errors: SC reversed.. reverse legend starts at top right (2 o’clock) – unusual. PACE P R VBIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT PACE = peace PR = Populus Romanum = People of Rome VBIQ (short for VBIQUE) = everywhere PARTA = doors IANVM = nominative case - place of Janus CLVSIT = closed The grammatical rendering is variable, but broadly goes something like this: "Since the [I]Pax Romana[/I] [Peace of the Roman People] is everywhere on land and sea, the doors of the temple of Janus he closed." The sense of [I]temple[/I] instead of [I]place[/I] is implied by the accompanying depiction of the temple itself. [I]Curtis Clay of Harlan Berk amends the translation with the explanation that PARTA is not "doors", but the past participle of "pario", "bring forth, produce, acquire". Thus the translation correctly reads:[/I] [I]"The Peace of the Roman People having been established everywhere, he closed (the Temple of) Janus."[/I] MY COIN: IMP NERO CAESAR AVG GERM / PACE PR VBIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT (obv bust R) (but temple arch to L) [U][URL='http://www.parthia.com/coins/rom_w25.jpg']Sear 689[/URL][/U] as " (bust R) " (but temple arch to L)[/QUOTE]
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