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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dave4dawg, post: 1832397, member: 39878&quot;]The coin has quite a bit of wear and coupled with photos as an attribution guide it&#039;s&nbsp; difficult to determine the exact die state. The crack from the neck/throat junction develops in the earlier middle states and strengthens into almost two planes and into the hair in the latest die states. Additionally several other branch cracks develop in the left upper and lower fields in the later states. Possibly some are visible on your coin in-hand. The latest known state (what Breen calls VIII) has a reverse rim break/crack at CA in AMERICA.&nbsp; The late or latest die state is not rare as the die deterioration advanced rather rapidly. The late die states are always cool. There is no premium for the terminal die state of the S-185, except by personal preference. It&#039;s quite possible that this is a later-latest die state as the throat crack looks rather heavy - the area around CA on the reverse&nbsp; is not clear enough in the photo/or is too worn to determine the latest die state for me. So without see more evidence I&#039;m sticking to middle late to late. I would cede the latest die state to Marshall if I could see a bit more - but I play it safe.</p><p><br /></p><p>The S-185 is not known to have an obverse CUD, nor bulge, cracks, raised planes, or retained CUDs in the area left of the lower curls which would precede a CUD. Noyes&#039; latest die states known and illustrated in NumiStudy (illustrating most high grade known examples that exhibit excellent detail) show no evidence of any obverse deterioration in the lower left obverse - only advanced cracking&nbsp; in the right fields and portrait in already known states. There&#039;s just no smoking gun evidence&nbsp; to support a CUD. I would attribute the lack of detail around the lower area to wear.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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