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Message:: [QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 369500, member: 12965"]I think it's like buying a car from someone who know's the engine's about to go but they do a little something to hide/mask the problem and don't tell you about it. It's shady selling and that isn't right. It's not like the CarFax commercials where a problem has occurred and they've repaired the damage and sold it, although many states now have laws against not disclosing major repairs.  I liken that to selling a cleaned coin without disclosing it's been cleaned and you know it's been cleaned, whether you cleaned it or someone else cleaned it. It is pretty much the law here (CoinTalk) that you don't do that so what's the difference? If he sells a coin he knows isn't what he's advertised it to be, is that no different than selling a coin you know has been cleaned and not disclosing it? I don't see the difference! Ribbit <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Ps: I agree with you Pa. It has become somewhat the norm in America and that's sad.  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  I run my auctions with honest information and quality photos. I prefer to let the photo sell the coin, not my mouth.[/QUOTE]