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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;justafarmer, post: 3144393, member: 3926&quot;]Looking at the Map I created above (which has not been verified and confirmed by another party by the way). Oh and please feel free to correct or clarify anything I am writing herein.</p><p><br /></p><p>The marks in red are those characteristics that appear to be common to the 3 PCGS authentic examples and the proposed source coin (which is also an authentic example of S-139). What makes the source coin unique in this situation - is it is the coin believed to be the example used as the model from which the counterfeit dies were created. The red marks are those I propose are characteristics of the authentic S-139 obverse and reverse dies. Therefore characteristics transferred to authentic coins struck at the same die stage and state.</p><p><br /></p><p>Keep in mind - die cracks tend to be progressive in nature. Meaning they tend to grow as more coins are struck. They affect the physical integrity of the die. Eventually leading to die breaks and eventual failure of the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>Die scratches, gouges and clashes do not affect the integrity of the die. They are more or less surface imperfections of a die. Therefore they tend to be regressive in nature. Meaning they tend to become less pronounced as more coins are struck. They wear away and soften the same as all other designs characteristics of a die does through use. Scratches, gouges and clashes of a die can occur at anytime during coin production. But they exhibit strongest on coinage when first occurred and tend to fade over time.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway an authentic coin of the same die state and stage should exhibit those characteristics I have indicated in red. A coin which does not exhibit these characteristics is suspect.</p><p><br /></p><p>The marks in blue are characteristics (gouges, scratches and etc) of the source coin which are common to the counterfeit coins but are not a characteristic exhibited by the 3 authentic PCGS examples. I propose these characteristics were transferred to the counterfeit dies when modeled and created from the source coin. Any coin exhibiting these blue markers is a suspect counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>The marks in green are characteristics which appear to be common to the counterfeit coins but appear not to be a characteristics of the source coin. A scratch, gouge, added element or etc of the counterfeit die itself. Any coin exhibiting these green markers is a suspect counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>The yellow marks are counterfeit die markers indicated by Jack in the OP that although were common to some; I couldn&#039;t verify, due to the images provided, to be common to all the counterfeit coins. Any coin exhibiting these yellow characteristics is a suspect counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is not to say an authentic coin couldn&#039;t exhibit some similar characteristics as the counterfeits.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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