1797 Cartwheel two pence Regal Coinage by Matthew Boulton at Soho Mint

From photos, without a standard of reference for determining size, the only way I know of to tell them appart is to have a good knowledge of the die varieties. I don't have that.

 

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Looks like a real nice one.

 

Proper storage of 'special' coins is a problem. Certainly we don't want the rims of a nice coin beat up but it is disturbing that a major TPG is though so poorly of that you could have fooled them into calling the coin something it is not had it been 'conserved'. Do they ever slab AU56 or did you expect to get MS60? Would the same coin slabbed at a grade it does not merit really sell for more than one nicer than its number? Sad. I'll be interested to see your new and improved photo and to know what any camera can do do counteract being shot through a slab.

What choices do we have for coins that don't fit Air Tites? Are there no resealable containers for such coins? Fortunately I don't collect coins that could be called AU or better but I still have some that don't fit well in my open trays (mostly for being too small). Sealed slabs would be my last choice.

 

Here is a new photo. I should set-up a new photo with florescent lighting and no zoom but I don’t have time until tomorrow. Tonight my sister is hosting a “meet & greet the candidate”. I wonder if Linda McMahon will bring any of her friends from her old World Wrestling Federation/Entertainment. I’ll be taking some photos of the people at the house tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCKZp-UMX0

 

Very nice indeed, Collect!

 

Personally, I think PCGS and the like are great for US coins, but they seem to be inconsistent with UK issues - probably because they're a minority of the coins they see. Nonetheless, Collect's example is a very nice coin, "conserved" or not.

 

Thanks Andy. Did you check out my sister's old mansion in the youtube link? It was buillt around 1850 & is nicer than the coin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCKZp-UMX0

There is a tunnel that goes about 200 yards from the house to the Housatonic river. I wonder if anyone ever metal-detected the tunnel for treasures.

 

I'll check it out when I get home - same problem as Flikr, etc ... can't access from work!

 

Very nice coin. Congratulations!

I have the two coins (one penny and two penny) in my british type set. Not in the grade as your's though. I will try to take images this weekend and will share.

Regards,
Ballabh Garg

 

The only difference between the two that I am aware of are, the number of leaves in olive branch britannia is holding. In 2d coins there are 11 leaves while on 1d coin there are 10 leaves.

Regards,
Ballabh Garg

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there are two reasons that it is hard to get a coin with great edges like Larry's. One is that the things are so big that they put quite a hit on each other when the rattle around in a bag. The other is the flans often had little flaws that made an easy place to chip away a hunk. I believe I see such a flaw line on the obverse bottom of Larry's coin between 5 and 6 o'clock. One good hit there and you could get a really ugly hunk out of the edge not all that different from this one I pulled out of a junk box. I selected it because it had good detail while others had better edges and more wear or worse strikes. Obviously we all would rather have a perfect coin but it is interesting what happened to a lot of these along the way. Does anyone have any that were countermarked or engraved with initials? I remember a lot of these in the boxful I got mine from and now wish I had bought a couple of the worst ones (cheap!).

 

LARGER pics

I'll post these larger images so you can have a closer look, since you seem interested in this issue.

 

And they are just plain big and heavy and copper is a soft metal, so if you drop it you are almost assured of getting a rim ding.

 

I received another example. : )
This one is in EF condition.

 

How much do these go for if you don't mind me asking?

 

Has anyone attempted to catalogue the assortment/varieties of countermarks that appear on 2d & 1d cartwheels?