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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 3090126, member: 112&quot;]I know what ya mean Roman, what you are saying. And that&#039;s about all the average person can do. But you know what I&#039;m talking about ? And perhaps you do know, but I&#039;ll continue for those who do not.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, if you use the correct fineness of metal and the coin is the correct size, then the weight will be correct and the specific gravity will be correct. And if those things are correct then the only way left to identify counterfeits is by die diagnostics. And if you don&#039;t know them then the coin will be attributed as being genuine. And that&#039;s the whole thing in a nutshell right there. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now some folks will say but no counterfeiter will do that - but they would be wrong because counterfeiters DO do that. They do exactly that ! And I don&#039;t just mean modern counterfeiters either, contemporary counterfeiters did it too. </p><p><br /></p><p>As an example, the Russian Royal Mint counterfeited Netherlands gold ducats for approximately 150 years ! And they minted millions upon millions of them. And every coin was exactly the right weight, size, fineness, and specific gravity.</p><p><br /></p><p>And the Russian Royal Mint was not the only one to do this, to counterfeit coins on such a grand scale. In the &#039;60&#039;s and &#039;70&#039;s there were entire factories specifically built and dedicated to minting counterfeit coins from all countries. And each coin was the correct weight, size, fineness, and specific gravity. And the coins were of such high quality that they could even fool the mint of the country who was supposed to have minted them. And this in fact actually happened. </p><p><br /></p><p>Which is why so many counterfeits get slabbed as genuine coins. They fool collectors, they fool dealers, they fool TPGs. The only ones they don&#039;t fool are those who know the specific die diagnostics.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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