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<p>[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 1715283, member: 21705"]I personally do NOT trust TPGs. But others do, so the ignorant will make your coin marketable. I'm still suspicious.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as variety, if authentic, it would definitely be S-76. The TPG indicates S-76b and they are good at measurements, so the weight is probably consistent with S-76b. Now the code on the slab should indicate what type of damage they think has the greatest impact on value. I'd be interested to find out if that indicated Tooled.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another thought. The S-76b went through several phases with both the obverse and reverse being retired at times and then brought back together. So this might account for some of the issues. Conder mentioned the current theory of the emission sequence in correspondence recently. I'll see if I can find the correspondence.</p><p><br /></p><p>76b (obv retired), </p><p>NC-2(obv retired),</p><p>76b (obv restored, then rev retired),</p><p>NC-3 (rev retired), </p><p>77 (rev retired) and finally </p><p>S-76b again with the restoration of the reverse. </p><p><br /></p><p>During the production of S-77 the obverse was drastically reground creating a large gap in the pole between the throat and the end of the pole, about 1/3 of it's length. That gap is not present on the early or middle state 76b's but is present on the latest ones. On the Holmes NC-3 coin the gap in the pole is not there so it had to come before the S-77 and late 76b.</p><p> </p><p>The obverse die was starting to sink on the mid-state 76b. Apparently from the wear pattern seen on all of the NC-3's the rev die sank rapidly through STATES OF. This was directly opposite the sinking obv die so the NC-3 probably had a weak date and STATES OF even when they were fresh off the dies. <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">There is no indication that the pole was ground down to almost nothing, even in the latest die state. While the OP's coins is a little weak at O(F), it is definitely not the weak area of the mid/late state die sinking one would expect. It also eliminates the late state theory.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">I'm back to fake or severely altered.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 1715283, member: 21705"]I personally do NOT trust TPGs. But others do, so the ignorant will make your coin marketable. I'm still suspicious. As far as variety, if authentic, it would definitely be S-76. The TPG indicates S-76b and they are good at measurements, so the weight is probably consistent with S-76b. Now the code on the slab should indicate what type of damage they think has the greatest impact on value. I'd be interested to find out if that indicated Tooled. Another thought. The S-76b went through several phases with both the obverse and reverse being retired at times and then brought back together. So this might account for some of the issues. Conder mentioned the current theory of the emission sequence in correspondence recently. I'll see if I can find the correspondence. 76b (obv retired), NC-2(obv retired), 76b (obv restored, then rev retired), NC-3 (rev retired), 77 (rev retired) and finally S-76b again with the restoration of the reverse. During the production of S-77 the obverse was drastically reground creating a large gap in the pole between the throat and the end of the pole, about 1/3 of it's length. That gap is not present on the early or middle state 76b's but is present on the latest ones. On the Holmes NC-3 coin the gap in the pole is not there so it had to come before the S-77 and late 76b. The obverse die was starting to sink on the mid-state 76b. Apparently from the wear pattern seen on all of the NC-3's the rev die sank rapidly through STATES OF. This was directly opposite the sinking obv die so the NC-3 probably had a weak date and STATES OF even when they were fresh off the dies. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] There is no indication that the pole was ground down to almost nothing, even in the latest die state. While the OP's coins is a little weak at O(F), it is definitely not the weak area of the mid/late state die sinking one would expect. It also eliminates the late state theory. I'm back to fake or severely altered. [/COLOR][/LEFT][/QUOTE]
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