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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 1737404, member: 66&quot;]Even if they could be proven to be the Harper demonstration pieces they still would not be coins as they are not mint products.&nbsp; At best they are a privately made pattern, at worst they are contemporary counterfeits.&nbsp; Either way they are not coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t know if anyone has cataloged all the contemporary counterfeit large cents but apparently there is some database of such information in the middle and late date series (For some reason it seems like most of the are 1818, 1846 and 1848 cents.).&nbsp; other than the Jeffereson Head, the closest things I know of to contemporary counterfeits in the early dates are the &quot;Smith counterfeits&quot; which are re-engraved genuine cents, and the electrotypes that collectors used either as hole fillers or as study pieces of rare varieties in and era when photos were not available.&nbsp; And of course the altered date &quot;1815&quot; coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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