1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent

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  1. Biscuitface

    Biscuitface New Member

    Hi I am from the UK and was looking through my childhood coin collection when I came across this coin. I have attatched photos can anyone tell me if it is a fake/replica. It has a die crack on the obverse side from the cap to the hair and on the reverse inbetween the words states and of to the n in one cent.

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  3. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    Please do not hold your coins like that. It will case ugly fingerprints to develop. Also, DO NOT CLEAn COINS. It would help if better pics that had a more direct view of the coin were to be supplied. Thanks.
     
  4. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I do not know if it's real or fake, but if it's real in that condition you're talking big bucks. Like Frostyluster said, don't handle the coin like that. Coin collectors cringe at pictures like this. Have cotton gloves? Great looking coin I must say!
     
  5. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    BigTee44 is correct. Looks like choice AU to me. (AU53) If it is authentic, we're talkin' 25,000 plus!
     
  6. BigTee44

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  7. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

  8. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I can't tell for sure if it's real or not Biscuit, but if it is it's worth some serious money like frostyluster says. I have a feeling it may not be genuine, but wait for some of the experts on the forum to weigh in. Good luck!

    Bruce
     
  9. Biscuitface

    Biscuitface New Member

    Many Thanks for your thoughts. As you are aware I am not a collector - apologies for causing you all to cringe at the photos- my husband took them! This coin has been in a jar with other coins for the past 30 years- They were given to me by a Canadian friend of the family. I will try and upload some clearer photos- are there any particular things that would tell me straight away that it's a replica.
    Thanks
     
  10. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    do you have a scale to weigh it?

    try to get pictures as close as possible to get the most clear detail. Good lighting helps a lot
     
  11. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    The hair detail looks awfully strong, but I've never seen a real one in that grade either !
     
  12. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I have to agree with doug21 on both points. I've never seen one with such high detail. If it's real you got a new car in your hand (1/2 of one if it keeps getting handled like that)
     
  13. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    It appears to be a Sheldon-44 (R1). Larger, clearer pics would help. A real Sheldon-44 in that condition is a very valuable coin. I wouldn't handle it like that if I were you. :eek:
     
  14. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Coin looks real to me, it has diagnostics on the obverse and reverse of S44, which is an R1, very common variety. In that grade, I would think this is a five figure coin and would be in the CC for the variety, but better in focus pictures would help grade it accurately. Very nice coin.

    Don't sweet too much about handling the coin. It's not mint state so leaving a print is unlikely. With old copper it develops a patina on the surface which actually acts like a protective layer. If you handle it repeatedly you will wear through the patina and will diminish the value, but a couple brief handlings won't harm it. With that said, it's better to hand it by the edges and keep other sharp or abrasive objects away from it.
     
  15. Biscuitface

    Biscuitface New Member

    Hi- The coin weighed approx 14g however cannot guarantee the scales are correct.- I know a large cent should weigh 13.5 g so could be a replica. Hope these photos are are a bit clearer- cheers
     

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  16. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    The die crack on the reverse and the lettered edge are rarely faked. Also the crack on the obverse agrees with the S-44 as stated above. I know little about large cents, but I would say genuine. Hopefully, someone who knows a lot more than me will chime in with more info.
     
  17. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I can't see anything that suggests it's not a genuine S44. All design and denticle alignments appear accurate.
     
  18. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I am hoping this coin is genuine - even if the weight does seem high at 14 grams. All of my 94's weigh 13.4 grams or less.
     
  19. Biscuitface

    Biscuitface New Member

    Thankyou

    Thank-you for everyones comments- there is a lot of knowledge out there. Seems like next step is to visit a UK dealer who specialises in US coins- will keep you posted- Cheers
     
  20. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Or send it in and get it graded by NGC or PCGS
     
  21. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    It's pretty bizarre that this will be one of the finest known and it must have gone to Europe very early on and basically nobody knew what it was for 200 years !

    This is almost like finding a 6th 1913 V-nickel or something, in terms of probability.

    I hope it is genuine.
     
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