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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 1211999, member: 66&quot;]I&#039;m thinking the coin is real and the die state is somewhere between State I and II&nbsp; it has the rim crumbling over LI but it hasn&#039;t developed yet over BER. The crumbling over LI in Breen for die state does show the dentical like appearance.&nbsp; The oddity is the way the bead to the right of the Y are drawn to the edge to look like denticals.&nbsp; This does not seem to appear on die states II or III.&nbsp; I&#039;m at a bit of a loss to explain that.&nbsp; As for where S-5 comes in the emission sequence, the punches for LIBERTY seem to me to more closely match those on the chain cents than the ones on the caps.&nbsp; So I would put it at the start of the wreaths.&nbsp; The real question then becomes does it come before or after NC-2 and NC-3?&nbsp; Breen put them after S-8 but I think that has to be wrong.&nbsp; Since the have the strawberry leaf under the bust it would seem to make sense to put them before S-5 as an initial design that was rejected and the they went to the olive(?) leaves under the bust.&nbsp; The problem is they have the small size letters in LIBERTY like those that come after S-5.&nbsp; Another problem though is the edge.&nbsp; The edges on NC-2 and NC-3 do not match any of the other wreath cents.&nbsp; The edges match the dies used to edge the chain cents&nbsp; (That&#039;s why they don&#039;t belong after S-8)&nbsp; This would seem to indicate they belong before S-5.</p><p><br /></p><p>No matter what the emission sequence for the wreath cents is screwy.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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