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<p>[QUOTE="TJC, post: 1745959, member: 45502"][ATTACH=full]273713[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273714[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]273718[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273717[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273716[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273715[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><b><u><font face="Arial">1791</font></u></b><b><u><font face="Arial"> Washington Large Eagle Cent</font></u></b></span></p><p> </p><p><b><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">O</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">: WASHINGTON PRESIDENT, George Washington left facing bust, 1791</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000"><b>Rx: </b>ONE CENT, eagle holds a scroll, “UNUM E PLURIBUS” in its beak, 13 arrows and an olive branch clutched in its talons </span></font></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><b><font face="Arial">Lettered edge:</font></b><font face="Arial"> UNITED STATES OF AMERICA . X .</font></span></p><p><b><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">Mint:</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000"> Obadiah Westwood ‘s, Birmingham, England</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000"><b>Wt: </b>11.97 grams<b>. Actual Wt.: </b>12.5 grams.<b> Diameter: </b>30.0 mm.<b> Reverse die alignment: </b>180°</span></font></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><b><font face="Arial">Q. D. Bower Rarity Rating: </font></b><font face="Arial">URS-11: 500 to 999</font></span></p><p> </p><p><i><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">“On the obverse there is a small die break, as a dot, to the left of the foot of the A… In the date the initial numeral 1 was recut so that the top appears doubled. On the reverse note the Large American eagle with dropped wings holding a scroll in its beak that gives the national motto in its less familiar form. (</span></font></i><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/WashEAGLECent.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/WashEAGLECent.html" rel="nofollow"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/WashEAGLECent.html</span></u></a><span style="color: #000000">)</span></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">I have had my eye on this cent for some time and have been saving for several months. I usually buy lower end coins, but have been disciplining myself to afford this purchase. And finally its mine!!!</span></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">It came with the auction holder that gives providence. I have been researching this cent for a while. Below is some info and links. </span></font></p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"> [ATTACH=full]273720[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273719[/ATTACH] </span></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">This1791 Washington Cent has a rich history with an interesting cast of players. The obvious major player is George Washington himself, and bears meaning because they were made during his Presidency. He declared this coinage with his image “monarchial” and rejected it. He also rejected and the idea of contract minting of Americas coinage. As I understand it, Washington’s refusal of his own portrait on US coinage is the precedent against living Presidents being on US coinage. (As a side note, I have wondered what the United States of America history may have been if good old George W. had been the type to like his picture on his countries coins.) </span></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">When this 1791 Washington Cent was minted it was not know that George W. did not want contract coinage with his image. English merchants, W. and Alexander Walker bet that the United States of America would welcome this coinage. Small denomination copper was scarce in Europe and America at this time in history. The beginnings of industrialization and steam power made it possible for private industry to fill the void with copper tokens and coinage. Conder tokens give a us a prime example of the wide variety of private “coinage” produced at the time. Boulton’s eventual approval to mint the 1797 cartwheel pence and two pence give us an example of government coinage produced during this time period. W. and Alexander Walker desired to be the United States provider of coinage and hired one of the foremost diesinkers of the time, John Gregory Hancock to make their coinage. Hancock made the dies and the cents where struck at the mint of Obadiah Westwood in Birmingham, England. </span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">See </span><a href="http://www.wnccoins.com/0029.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wnccoins.com/0029.htm" rel="nofollow"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.wnccoins.com/0029.htm</span></u></a><span style="color: #000000"> for a list of John G. Hancock and others Conder tokens.</span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">While originating from England these Washington cents did see the shores of America. <i>“The Walkers had a cask of these cents shipped to his American associate, the firm of Thomas Ketland and Son, in Philadelphia. They were to distribute the coins to cabinet officers, senators and congressmen in the hopes of securing a federal minting contract. It has been assumed the cask was a a normal size hundredweight barrel, which would accommodate 112 pounds or about 4,000 coppers. It has been further conjectured about 2,500 of the coppers were the Large Eagle variety and about 1,500 were Small Eagle cents.”</i> (</span><a href="http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/WashEAGLECent.intro.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/WashEAGLECent.intro.html" rel="nofollow"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/WashEAGLECent.intro.html</span></u></a><span style="color: #000000">)</span></font></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">For the obverse Hancock did not generate his own portrait of George Washington’s but instead used the popular portrait produced by Pierre Eugene Du Simitiere to model his die from. The likeness of Washington in this left facing bust in military uniform is a striking image on both paper and cent. Although Hancock’s version is not exact to that of Simitiere’s the portrait most similar. Compare below. Simitiere has a numismatic story all his own. He is highlighted in Dr. Joel J. Orosz’s book, “<i>The Eagle that is Forgotten, </i></font><i><font face="Arial">Pierre Eugène Du Simitière, Founding Father of American Numismatics</font></i><font face="Arial">”. I am in the process of reading it now</font><font face="Wingdings">J</font><font face="Arial"> </font></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">“</font><font face="Arial">Du Simitière was an artist and antiquarian of Swiss origin whose collection of ancient and modern coins was on public display in his home in Philadelphia at the time of the Revolution. George Washington visited there in 1779 and sat for three-quarters of an hour for the portrait sketch from which this engraving is derived.”</font></span></p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"> </span></font></font><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">(</span><a href="http://rbsc.princeton.edu/capping-liberty/exhibition/item/2929" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rbsc.princeton.edu/capping-liberty/exhibition/item/2929" rel="nofollow"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">http://rbsc.princeton.edu/capping-liberty/exhibition/item/2929</span></u></a><span style="color: #000000">) </span></font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="color: #000000">Pierre Eugène Du Simitière. “George Washington. Plate 1 from Collection des portraits. . . . First state, Paris, 1781.” </span></font><span style="color: #000000"><u><font face="Arial">See Below: </font></u></span> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]273721[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TJC, post: 1745959, member: 45502"][ATTACH=full]273713[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273714[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]273718[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273717[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273716[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273715[/ATTACH] [COLOR=#000000][B][U][FONT=Arial]1791[/FONT][/U][/B][B][U][FONT=Arial] Washington Large Eagle Cent[/FONT][/U][/B][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]O[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]: WASHINGTON PRESIDENT, George Washington left facing bust, 1791 [B]Rx: [/B]ONE CENT, eagle holds a scroll, “UNUM E PLURIBUS” in its beak, 13 arrows and an olive branch clutched in its talons [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#000000][B][FONT=Arial]Lettered edge:[/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial] UNITED STATES OF AMERICA . X .[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Mint:[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000] Obadiah Westwood ‘s, Birmingham, England [B]Wt: [/B]11.97 grams[B]. Actual Wt.: [/B]12.5 grams.[B] Diameter: [/B]30.0 mm.[B] Reverse die alignment: [/B]180°[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#000000][B][FONT=Arial]Q. D. Bower Rarity Rating: [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]URS-11: 500 to 999[/FONT][/COLOR] [I][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]“On the obverse there is a small die break, as a dot, to the left of the foot of the A… In the date the initial numeral 1 was recut so that the top appears doubled. On the reverse note the Large American eagle with dropped wings holding a scroll in its beak that gives the national motto in its less familiar form. ([/COLOR][/FONT][/I][FONT=Arial][URL='http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/WashEAGLECent.html'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/WashEAGLECent.html[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#000000])[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]I have had my eye on this cent for some time and have been saving for several months. I usually buy lower end coins, but have been disciplining myself to afford this purchase. And finally its mine!!![/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]It came with the auction holder that gives providence. I have been researching this cent for a while. Below is some info and links. [/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000] [ATTACH=full]273720[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]273719[/ATTACH] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]This1791 Washington Cent has a rich history with an interesting cast of players. The obvious major player is George Washington himself, and bears meaning because they were made during his Presidency. He declared this coinage with his image “monarchial” and rejected it. He also rejected and the idea of contract minting of Americas coinage. As I understand it, Washington’s refusal of his own portrait on US coinage is the precedent against living Presidents being on US coinage. (As a side note, I have wondered what the United States of America history may have been if good old George W. had been the type to like his picture on his countries coins.) [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]When this 1791 Washington Cent was minted it was not know that George W. did not want contract coinage with his image. English merchants, W. and Alexander Walker bet that the United States of America would welcome this coinage. Small denomination copper was scarce in Europe and America at this time in history. The beginnings of industrialization and steam power made it possible for private industry to fill the void with copper tokens and coinage. Conder tokens give a us a prime example of the wide variety of private “coinage” produced at the time. Boulton’s eventual approval to mint the 1797 cartwheel pence and two pence give us an example of government coinage produced during this time period. W. and Alexander Walker desired to be the United States provider of coinage and hired one of the foremost diesinkers of the time, John Gregory Hancock to make their coinage. Hancock made the dies and the cents where struck at the mint of Obadiah Westwood in Birmingham, England. [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]See [/COLOR][URL='http://www.wnccoins.com/0029.htm'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.wnccoins.com/0029.htm[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#000000] for a list of John G. Hancock and others Conder tokens.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]While originating from England these Washington cents did see the shores of America. [I]“The Walkers had a cask of these cents shipped to his American associate, the firm of Thomas Ketland and Son, in Philadelphia. They were to distribute the coins to cabinet officers, senators and congressmen in the hopes of securing a federal minting contract. It has been assumed the cask was a a normal size hundredweight barrel, which would accommodate 112 pounds or about 4,000 coppers. It has been further conjectured about 2,500 of the coppers were the Large Eagle variety and about 1,500 were Small Eagle cents.”[/I] ([/COLOR][URL='http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/WashEAGLECent.intro.html'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/WashEAGLECent.intro.html[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#000000])[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]For the obverse Hancock did not generate his own portrait of George Washington’s but instead used the popular portrait produced by Pierre Eugene Du Simitiere to model his die from. The likeness of Washington in this left facing bust in military uniform is a striking image on both paper and cent. Although Hancock’s version is not exact to that of Simitiere’s the portrait most similar. Compare below. Simitiere has a numismatic story all his own. He is highlighted in Dr. Joel J. Orosz’s book, “[I]The Eagle that is Forgotten, [/I][/FONT][I][FONT=Arial]Pierre Eugène Du Simitière, Founding Father of American Numismatics[/FONT][/I][FONT=Arial]”. I am in the process of reading it now[/FONT][FONT=Wingdings]J[/FONT][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]“[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Du Simitière was an artist and antiquarian of Swiss origin whose collection of ancient and modern coins was on public display in his home in Philadelphia at the time of the Revolution. George Washington visited there in 1779 and sat for three-quarters of an hour for the portrait sketch from which this engraving is derived.”[/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]([/COLOR][URL='http://rbsc.princeton.edu/capping-liberty/exhibition/item/2929'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]http://rbsc.princeton.edu/capping-liberty/exhibition/item/2929[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#000000]) [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Pierre Eugène Du Simitière. “George Washington. Plate 1 from Collection des portraits. . . . First state, Paris, 1781.” [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][U][FONT=Arial]See Below: [/FONT][/U][/COLOR] [ATTACH=full]273721[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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