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<p>[QUOTE="britannia40, post: 2300629, member: 74818"]I've always been interested in coins I think mainly because of the history so of course when I Found this like 2 years ago I jumped on it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I bought this document on a auction site about 2 years ago. It was listed in Coins and came with a ugly 1/2 Escudo. I think because it wasn't listed with having the document really no one paid attention to it. I ended up being the only bidder and got it for the melt value at that time. I took the document to an antique shop and museum and they both said they believe it was authentic. I couldn't find anyone around that could seal it up (with the size of it) so I have a custom frame built. I had it placed between two pieces of non-stick glass. I took pictures of it in the frame also with and without light for the royal water seal.</p><p><br /></p><p>The document is from King Charles the 3rd of Spain dated 1784. It is concerning the Order of Santiago, which was an order of Spanish Knights. It has the signatures of numerous members of the order and governors at that time.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]462285[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462286[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462287[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462288[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462289[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wanted to put the 1782 1/2 Escudo with it but I didn't think it went well with the document due to its condition. So today I just got in hand the replacement piece (Charles 3rd) a 1786 1/2 Escudo.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]462290[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462291[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Below is from the net Wiki, about the order for those interested.</p><p><br /></p><p>"also known as "The Order of St. James of the Sword," was founded in the 12th century, and owes its name to the national patron of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Spain)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Spain)" rel="nofollow">Galicia</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain" rel="nofollow">Spain</a>, <b>Santiago</b> (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_the_Greater" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_the_Greater" rel="nofollow">St. James the Greater</a>). Its initial objective was to protect the pilgrim of St. James' Way and to defend Christendom.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Santiago#cite_note-Linehan10-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Santiago#cite_note-Linehan10-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>After the death of the Grand Master Alfonso de Cárdenas in 1493, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Monarchs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Monarchs" rel="nofollow">Catholic Monarchs</a> incorporated the Order into the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Monarchy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Monarchy" rel="nofollow">Spanish Crown</a> and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope" rel="nofollow">pope</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_VI" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_VI" rel="nofollow">Adrian VI</a> forever united the office of grandmaster of Santiago to the crown in 1523.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first Republic suppressed the Order in 1873 and, although the Restoration was re-established, it was reduced to a nobiliary institute of honorable character. It was ruled by a Superior Council dependent on the Ministry of War, which was also extinguished after the proclamation of the second Republic in 1931.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Order of Santiago, together with the Calatrava, Alcántara and Montesa, was restored as a civil association with the kingship of Juan Carlos I with the character of a nobiliary, honorable, and religious organization that remains as such."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="britannia40, post: 2300629, member: 74818"]I've always been interested in coins I think mainly because of the history so of course when I Found this like 2 years ago I jumped on it. I bought this document on a auction site about 2 years ago. It was listed in Coins and came with a ugly 1/2 Escudo. I think because it wasn't listed with having the document really no one paid attention to it. I ended up being the only bidder and got it for the melt value at that time. I took the document to an antique shop and museum and they both said they believe it was authentic. I couldn't find anyone around that could seal it up (with the size of it) so I have a custom frame built. I had it placed between two pieces of non-stick glass. I took pictures of it in the frame also with and without light for the royal water seal. The document is from King Charles the 3rd of Spain dated 1784. It is concerning the Order of Santiago, which was an order of Spanish Knights. It has the signatures of numerous members of the order and governors at that time. [ATTACH=full]462285[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462286[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462287[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462288[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462289[/ATTACH] I wanted to put the 1782 1/2 Escudo with it but I didn't think it went well with the document due to its condition. So today I just got in hand the replacement piece (Charles 3rd) a 1786 1/2 Escudo. [ATTACH=full]462290[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]462291[/ATTACH] Below is from the net Wiki, about the order for those interested. "also known as "The Order of St. James of the Sword," was founded in the 12th century, and owes its name to the national patron of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Spain)']Galicia[/URL] and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain']Spain[/URL], [B]Santiago[/B] ([URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_the_Greater']St. James the Greater[/URL]). Its initial objective was to protect the pilgrim of St. James' Way and to defend Christendom.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Santiago#cite_note-Linehan10-1'][1][/URL] After the death of the Grand Master Alfonso de Cárdenas in 1493, the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Monarchs']Catholic Monarchs[/URL] incorporated the Order into the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Monarchy']Spanish Crown[/URL] and the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope']pope[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_VI']Adrian VI[/URL] forever united the office of grandmaster of Santiago to the crown in 1523. The first Republic suppressed the Order in 1873 and, although the Restoration was re-established, it was reduced to a nobiliary institute of honorable character. It was ruled by a Superior Council dependent on the Ministry of War, which was also extinguished after the proclamation of the second Republic in 1931. The Order of Santiago, together with the Calatrava, Alcántara and Montesa, was restored as a civil association with the kingship of Juan Carlos I with the character of a nobiliary, honorable, and religious organization that remains as such."[/QUOTE]
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