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Message:: [QUOTE="Randy Abercrombie, post: 26192165, member: 92655"]What a spectacular slice of American history. And frankly, I have no working knowledge of this colonial piece. I am betting the design is inspired by the Nova Constellatio design that was issued two years prior. Your dad certainly collected some fine historical examples and while I cannot offer anything useful about the piece I did take the verbiage below from the PCGS website: The 1785 VERMONTIS is a spelling variant of the 1785 Landscape Type Vermont Coppers (the other two spelling varieties are VERMONTS and VERMONTENSIUM). The pressure to collect all three of these varieties increases the value of the VERMONTIS variant because it is represented by only one die combination (Ryder 4). High grade examples are very rare -- the best is the Gem example that currently resides in the Bennington Museum in Vermont. The Ford:17 About Uncirculated was another notable example. The key to collecting the 1785 VERMONTIS (and all Vermont Coppers, for that matter) is to locate examples that have clean surfaces, a problem-free planchet, and a nice, chocolate-brown color. The VF30 illustrated above features two out of three.[/QUOTE]