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<p>[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 4968797, member: 72790"]I collect in other areas than ancients and have seen and handled many of these pieces. There are so many, many fakes of these coins that extreme caution should be exercised in purchasing them and that does not mean buying them from an established coin shop. They require more than that for authentication. Looking at this coin, admittedly only from a distance and photo, either that image or the coin appears "mushy" to me. What is its weight? Though a two bit coin like this often varied in weight when they were hand struck, hammered pieces, this one was supposed to be a milled coin and that means it should weigh one quarter of the the full piece of eight. Look at the one below I have posted, admittedly not the best quality photo from my cell phone. Looks pretty good. Not too much wear. Fairly smooth surface. No obvious signs of casting bubbles. Nice reeding on the milled edges. Silvery surface. It is negative to the touch of a magnet (not a nickel alloy). It should weigh about 6.77 grams as minted. It doesn't. I[ATTACH=full]1194251[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1194252[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1194253[/ATTACH] It weighs 6.1 grams and that is noticeably under weight. If the mint was turning out 2 reales pieces of this weight consistently, somebody would be in big trouble. This coin resides in my black box of likely fakes. In this case a possibly pressed coin. Bottom line for me is that I would not purchase it as anything other than a another coin for my black cabinet. Yours might turn out to be genuine but its value probably precludes sending it out for authentication. I just prefer not to have a coin in my collection which every time I looked at it I would wonder what it is I have.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 4968797, member: 72790"]I collect in other areas than ancients and have seen and handled many of these pieces. There are so many, many fakes of these coins that extreme caution should be exercised in purchasing them and that does not mean buying them from an established coin shop. They require more than that for authentication. Looking at this coin, admittedly only from a distance and photo, either that image or the coin appears "mushy" to me. What is its weight? Though a two bit coin like this often varied in weight when they were hand struck, hammered pieces, this one was supposed to be a milled coin and that means it should weigh one quarter of the the full piece of eight. Look at the one below I have posted, admittedly not the best quality photo from my cell phone. Looks pretty good. Not too much wear. Fairly smooth surface. No obvious signs of casting bubbles. Nice reeding on the milled edges. Silvery surface. It is negative to the touch of a magnet (not a nickel alloy). It should weigh about 6.77 grams as minted. It doesn't. I[ATTACH=full]1194251[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1194252[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1194253[/ATTACH] It weighs 6.1 grams and that is noticeably under weight. If the mint was turning out 2 reales pieces of this weight consistently, somebody would be in big trouble. This coin resides in my black box of likely fakes. In this case a possibly pressed coin. Bottom line for me is that I would not purchase it as anything other than a another coin for my black cabinet. Yours might turn out to be genuine but its value probably precludes sending it out for authentication. I just prefer not to have a coin in my collection which every time I looked at it I would wonder what it is I have.[/QUOTE]
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