1756 2 reales Mexico City mint - is it real?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Swervo513, Oct 24, 2020.

  1. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Active Member

    Hey All!

    I just got back from my honeymoon in Baja, Mexico. On my trip I came across a boutique that had many things made of silver including a small coin section. Among some fakes and eclectic pieces of Mexican coins I find this little gem. I think it’s real but I can not be certain. After buying some silver jewelry he charged me about $25 bucks for the coin.

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    Above: Notice the arrow shaped mark on the lower left quadrant of this coin. Is this a counter stamp? Is it just damage?


    Above: The coiled edge is an encouraging sign of authenticity.

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    Above: In this photo the edge seems worn Or it could be a sign of cleaning, even worse forgery.


    Thank you for looking and for your responses.

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  3. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Active Member

    My apologies. Can a moderator please move this to the world coin section?
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Yes please . I would like to comment ,
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Looks reale , lol
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Sorry,, 2 reale, lol
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    From the photos, it looks OK to me but possibly polished or overcleaned.
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I agree you need to move this to the modern world section where you might find a specialist in these. My guess would be that it is a cast fake but this is not my area of interest. Mat may be right since it is possible to make a good coin look bad with polishing and harsh cleaning.
  9. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    My gut feeling is genuine, formerly soldered into jewelry.
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  10. Jedinited

    Jedinited Jayhawk Numismatist

    I agree.
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  11. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

  12. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Edge seam and muddy details tells me it is a cast fake. Just my opinion.
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Take it to a shop where they can use a machine to test the gold.
    If it's gold, it's probably real.
  14. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    I doubt it is gold for $25. OP implied silver.
    Here is a similar struck coin for comparison of sharpness of details:
    MEXICO. Ferdinand VI. 1746-1759. AR 2 Reales. 1750. (6.57 gm). Pillar type. Mo-M , Mexico City mint, KM86.1-2; Cal. 490-496; Cayon:10385
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  15. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I think it had a rough life...in a fire, buried, cleaned and polished repeatedly in jewelry, or maybe a very bad fake.
  16. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    I think it is okay. Check the weight. It should be around 6.7668 grams, but don't be alarmed if the coin's weight falls below that standard.

    It looks as if your coin has a fair amount of wear, perhaps about VF for grade at best.

    Ex jewelry is a definite possibility, as there is some evidence that part of the edge has been smoothed and tooled, probably to remove solder.
  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes silver of course, my mistake.
    Same thing applies if it's silver it has more of a chance of authenticity.
  18. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Robinjojo is correct. The weight is vital for determination.
    Please tell us.
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..idk...i think a seea seam....and its muddy....and i'm from Missoura....give us a weight....if its a real reale...you gotta deal...:p
  20. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    1783 2R El Cazador -Rev.jpg 1783 2R El Cazador-Obv.jpg I have one, El Cazador shipwreck coin ?
  21. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Use a metal detector. It will tell the truth .
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