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<p>[QUOTE="Shoewrecky, post: 845222, member: 22350"]<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><u><b>Question</b></u>: I am by no means a coin collector or expert, but I am certainly very keen on history, particularly the eighteenth century. I have had in my possession for a long time now, a mysterious coin, dated 1752. What I really want to know is, what is this coin, and is it contemporary? I really have no idea, but I would very much like to find out as I have puzzled over it for a long time now.</font></font> </p><p> </p><p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">It appears to be French, on one side there is a profile of who I can only presume to be Louis XVI, and a Latin inscription, too abbreviated for me to translate - FRANC.D.G.R.I.S.A.GER.IER.REX. On the other side there is a coat of arms and another Latin inscription which is somewhat easier to translate - TU DOMINE SPES MEA 1752 The coat of arms is hard to describe - it consists of what appears to be a griffin with two heads, holding two swords with a crown covering both heads and another smaller one below the heads. The coat of arms is in the centre of the bird and at the bottom on either side of the tail are printed the tiny letters: C and A.</font></font> </p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">I don't know if that made too much sense to you, but I am no expert on coats of arms! The coin itself appears to be in good condition, the markings clearly defined, which makes me wonder if it IS contemporary or not. It is a strange colour - it may have been a silver colour, but it is almost a dirty yellow now. (But still shiny).</font></font> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><u><b>ANSWER</b></u>: This is a German Coin. The Legend, FRANC.D.G.R.I.S.A.GER.IER.REX. says Francis, By the Grace of G-d (D. G.) Emperor of the Romans ever August (Romanorum Imperator Semper August or R.I.S.A.) and King of Germany and Jerusalem (GER. IER.REX). The reverse says, TU DOMINE SPES MEA 1752 or Thou Lord is my hope, 1752. Fortunately most of Europe used Latin in their coin legends irrespective of the national language. At least one only has to learn the Latin abbreviations.</font></font> </p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">I'm not sure which German City State this coin is from, though I will guess it is a silver Thaler (approximately the size of a English Crown) and could very well be from Nuremberg. The value depends on the which type, denomination and grade but the most common of these Thalers trade in decent condition between US$100 - $300. </font></font></p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Taken from <a href="http://www.coinsite.com/content/cdanswers/cdarchive14.asp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinsite.com/content/cdanswers/cdarchive14.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinsite.com/content/cdanswers/cdarchive14.asp</a></font></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">**Not sure how old/recent that information is so the value may or may not be accurate</font></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Try here too: <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t867/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t867/">http://www.cointalk.com/t867/</a> probably a little more accurate <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p> <p style="text-align: left"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: left"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">-Shrek</font></font></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Shoewrecky, post: 845222, member: 22350"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][U][B]Question[/B][/U]: I am by no means a coin collector or expert, but I am certainly very keen on history, particularly the eighteenth century. I have had in my possession for a long time now, a mysterious coin, dated 1752. What I really want to know is, what is this coin, and is it contemporary? I really have no idea, but I would very much like to find out as I have puzzled over it for a long time now.[/SIZE][/FONT] [LEFT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]It appears to be French, on one side there is a profile of who I can only presume to be Louis XVI, and a Latin inscription, too abbreviated for me to translate - FRANC.D.G.R.I.S.A.GER.IER.REX. On the other side there is a coat of arms and another Latin inscription which is somewhat easier to translate - TU DOMINE SPES MEA 1752 The coat of arms is hard to describe - it consists of what appears to be a griffin with two heads, holding two swords with a crown covering both heads and another smaller one below the heads. The coat of arms is in the centre of the bird and at the bottom on either side of the tail are printed the tiny letters: C and A.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I don't know if that made too much sense to you, but I am no expert on coats of arms! The coin itself appears to be in good condition, the markings clearly defined, which makes me wonder if it IS contemporary or not. It is a strange colour - it may have been a silver colour, but it is almost a dirty yellow now. (But still shiny).[/SIZE][/FONT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][U][B]ANSWER[/B][/U]: This is a German Coin. The Legend, FRANC.D.G.R.I.S.A.GER.IER.REX. says Francis, By the Grace of G-d (D. G.) Emperor of the Romans ever August (Romanorum Imperator Semper August or R.I.S.A.) and King of Germany and Jerusalem (GER. IER.REX). The reverse says, TU DOMINE SPES MEA 1752 or Thou Lord is my hope, 1752. Fortunately most of Europe used Latin in their coin legends irrespective of the national language. At least one only has to learn the Latin abbreviations.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I'm not sure which German City State this coin is from, though I will guess it is a silver Thaler (approximately the size of a English Crown) and could very well be from Nuremberg. The value depends on the which type, denomination and grade but the most common of these Thalers trade in decent condition between US$100 - $300. [/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT] [LEFT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Taken from [URL]http://www.coinsite.com/content/cdanswers/cdarchive14.asp[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]**Not sure how old/recent that information is so the value may or may not be accurate[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Try here too: [URL]http://www.cointalk.com/t867/[/URL] probably a little more accurate :)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]-Shrek[/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][/QUOTE]
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