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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bernard55, post: 8061795, member: 114733&quot;]OK, I think I have taken this as far as I can...</p><p><br /></p><p>The original coins (not the one I am in possession of) are believed to be a 1733 &#039;pattern&#039; created after Wood&#039;s death (1730) and possibly made in &quot;several unique varieties including those made in lead and steel&quot; (<a href="https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/513994?page=13" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/513994?page=13" rel="nofollow">Colonial Newsletter, no 130</a>).</p><p><br /></p><p>There are also references to the coins possibly having a population of ~45 (Found in an advert from marketing at the PNG Convention in Chicago on March 5-7, 1965) - but PCGS and SB all say it&#039;s more like ~4.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]1397368[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Alfred Robinson made copies that looked quite a bit different but someone made electrotype copies (like this one)...&nbsp; It&#039;s hard to tell who made the electrotypes but it&#039;s referenced <a href="https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-DHSRQ/1733-rosa-americana-pattern-twopence-martin-1-a-w-1370-rarity-7-proof-64-bn-pcgs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-DHSRQ/1733-rosa-americana-pattern-twopence-martin-1-a-w-1370-rarity-7-proof-64-bn-pcgs" rel="nofollow">here</a> that it could have been famous collector/author Sylvester Crosby (if I&#039;m reading this correctly) &quot;If <a href="https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-NLWPJ/crosby-sylvester-sage-the-early-coins-of-america-and-the-laws-governing-their-issue-comprising-also-descriptions-of-the-washington-p" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-NLWPJ/crosby-sylvester-sage-the-early-coins-of-america-and-the-laws-governing-their-issue-comprising-also-descriptions-of-the-washington-p" rel="nofollow">Sylvester Crosby&#039;s</a> <a href="https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-NLWPJ/crosby-sylvester-sage-the-early-coins-of-america-and-the-laws-governing-their-issue-comprising-also-descriptions-of-the-washington-p" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-NLWPJ/crosby-sylvester-sage-the-early-coins-of-america-and-the-laws-governing-their-issue-comprising-also-descriptions-of-the-washington-p" rel="nofollow">The Early Coins of America</a> (from ~1875) is to be believed, Parmelee did not acquire this coin directly from Clay: he bought it from Crosby. On page 167 of Crosby, describing this coin, Crosby wrote &quot;the only specimen we have seen is in the collection of the writer; another, as well as an obverse in steel, is said to be in the British Museum.&quot; This coin was plated in Crosby, and <b>it appears likely that Crosby was the source of some of the known electrotypes of this coin</b>, which would have been produced in this era.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>An electrotype copy was sold for $280 at a <a href="https://www.sixbid.com/de/stacks-bowers-and-ponterio/7923/struck-copies-of-colonial-coins/6493084/1733-pattern-rosa-americana-twopence" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sixbid.com/de/stacks-bowers-and-ponterio/7923/struck-copies-of-colonial-coins/6493084/1733-pattern-rosa-americana-twopence" rel="nofollow">SB auction</a> in 2020 but there is limited info... another was sold in <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3208570" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3208570" rel="nofollow">2016</a>. Here is the 2020 pix:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1397385[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I would love to see this however but I searched for over an hour and could not find it: In correspondence between Eric Newman and Richard Picker in 1960, Eric said, &quot;I<a href="https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/532579?page=23" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/532579?page=23" rel="nofollow"> have considerable material assembled on this matter but have a few other projects ahead of it.</a>&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>If anyone has some additional pointers to go deeper on this please let me know.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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