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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bernard55, post: 8061290, member: 114733&quot;]I also found two references in a sale in a<a href="https://archive.org/details/january2012ameri2012stac/page/142/mode/2up?view=theater" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/january2012ameri2012stac/page/142/mode/2up?view=theater" rel="nofollow"> Stack&#039;s Bowers Galleries The January 2012 Americana Sale</a> (item 7018 and item 7019 on page 142 of 459) that stated:</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;7018 1733 Rosa Americana Twopence Pattern Die Trial, Breen-106, W-1370. Lead. AU-50. <b><span style="color: #ff0000">This beautiful Rosa Americana pattern is known in a variety of metals, including copper, iron, bath metal, and as here, in lead</span></b>. Struck in coin turn on a lead square about 43.5 X 45.5 millimeters, the edges of which are a bit uneven and the surfaces of which show some buckling of the soft metal and pesting of the surface from prior humid storage. There is some softening of the design at the high points through handling and we also note a few old marks on both sides. Very rare in this metal, we know of only the fully round lead example that was lot 97 in our (Stack&#039;s) 1983 sale of the Roper Collection, <b>though there undoubtedly could be more extant examples in lead that are not known to us.</b> The two-sided copper examples in Ford brought over $50,000 each, while the uniface impression steel of an obverse brought over $8,000 in the same sale. A remarkable item that belongs in an important collection of Rosa Americana coinage.</p><p><br /></p><p>7019 &quot;1733&quot; Pattern Rosa Americana Twopence. Robinson Copy. Kenney-4, W-15160. Brass. MS-63 BN. Dating to the 1860s, this Robinson Copy of the 1733 Rosa Americana pattern twopence exhibits faint semi-reflective qualities in the fields when viewed under a strong light. Outwardly the appearance is one of blended autumn-orange and golden-olive patina, with a few swirls of crimson patina also scattered</p><p>about. Boldly struck throughout, the only significant blemish is a well concealed spot at the base of the obverse portrait&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Update</u></b>: Lot 93 mentioned above from the 1983 sale can be found <a href="https://archive.org/details/johnlroper2ndcol1983stac/page/38/mode/2up" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/johnlroper2ndcol1983stac/page/38/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">here </a>(see page 38 or 183)[ATTACH=full]1397256[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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