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<p>[QUOTE="iPen, post: 2425901, member: 69760"]Is this 1725 Russian Rouble authentic?</p><p><br /></p><p>I did some research and I can't tell - are there any Russian coin buffs here?</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin weighs in at 28.2 grams compared to the reported Krause weight of 28.44 grams, which makes it off by 0.8%. So, I can't tell from the weight alone. I don't really want to do the drop test with the silver, or any sort of acid test. I'd be up for using a metal analyzer like the XRT one, but I don't have one of those around...</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin itself looks to be a sharp example, so I'm concerned that it may be a counterfeit, since not many of these in this good a shape would be around. I'm also unsure of how detailed the coin should be, since many of the online examples show lots of wear. I've attached photos of mine below, directly atop and angled.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm hoping that some of the die markers can be matched up. From what I can tell, this specific variety is a KM#162.5 (PCGS image example shown below, pic from the web). NGC has an image example of this variety, but it looks different as you can see from the snapshot below of the coin's details page (e.g. the words circling near the rim on the obverse begin and end at different positions). It could possibly be a KM#162.6, but I couldn't find any examples of that online. The edge is plain with no reeding.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do wonder if it's a counterfeit since the details are sharp, but at the same time, many of the counterfeit examples are badly worn to hide any die markers. This example could take the opposite direction, perhaps if nicer examples are harder to come across. Any thoughts?</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks in advance!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080509_zpsfpipt9vz.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080510_zpssgaady8z.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080511_zpshk3vg1v3.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080512_zpsupbhhe61.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]503378[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]503379[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="iPen, post: 2425901, member: 69760"]Is this 1725 Russian Rouble authentic? I did some research and I can't tell - are there any Russian coin buffs here? The coin weighs in at 28.2 grams compared to the reported Krause weight of 28.44 grams, which makes it off by 0.8%. So, I can't tell from the weight alone. I don't really want to do the drop test with the silver, or any sort of acid test. I'd be up for using a metal analyzer like the XRT one, but I don't have one of those around... The coin itself looks to be a sharp example, so I'm concerned that it may be a counterfeit, since not many of these in this good a shape would be around. I'm also unsure of how detailed the coin should be, since many of the online examples show lots of wear. I've attached photos of mine below, directly atop and angled. I'm hoping that some of the die markers can be matched up. From what I can tell, this specific variety is a KM#162.5 (PCGS image example shown below, pic from the web). NGC has an image example of this variety, but it looks different as you can see from the snapshot below of the coin's details page (e.g. the words circling near the rim on the obverse begin and end at different positions). It could possibly be a KM#162.6, but I couldn't find any examples of that online. The edge is plain with no reeding. I do wonder if it's a counterfeit since the details are sharp, but at the same time, many of the counterfeit examples are badly worn to hide any die markers. This example could take the opposite direction, perhaps if nicer examples are harder to come across. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! [IMG]http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080509_zpsfpipt9vz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080510_zpssgaady8z.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080511_zpshk3vg1v3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/kovacs22/P1080512_zpsupbhhe61.jpg[/IMG] [ATTACH=full]503378[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]503379[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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