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<p>[QUOTE="dannic113, post: 1394967, member: 35203"]Can't be an actual Atocha. The Atocha sank off the florida keys in a hurricane in Sept. of 1622. All Atocha 8 reales or pieces of 8 are first off about 27.5grams in weight for exeptional original specimens and as low as only a few grams. This can vary slightly due to how they were made but don't vary with enough widely. If they are circulated (highly unlikely because the ship didn't make it from south america back to spain) or erroded/worn away or fractioned out to make smaller denominations this can change the weight on a real coin. Second all are irregular shaped because they were heated and cut off in varying weights (spanish used 1/2, 1, 2, 4, and 8 Reales coins they could be cut apart to make change from higher denominations kind of like chop marks on coins from the far east) from thrown together bars. Due to the poorly constructed hand made dies the only details that are almost always visible and present are the mint that hammered the coin(s) so spain knew which new world colonies were sending them what bars and cobs, the assay's mark showing the quality i.e. the guaranteed weight for the denomination and purity of the metal, and the denomination itself such as 2 Reales. What you MAY have is a replica that was made from any ingots or bars found on the ship when it was salvaged. I know they did that with some of the gold bars from the S.S. South America or you could have another coin entirely as the only perfectly round coins from that period came from the actual european countries and again they don't match the insciption you have is what should be on an Atocha but is perfectly round and spanish 8 reales coins that are perfectly round from spain around 1714 are two pillars with something inbetween.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dannic113, post: 1394967, member: 35203"]Can't be an actual Atocha. The Atocha sank off the florida keys in a hurricane in Sept. of 1622. All Atocha 8 reales or pieces of 8 are first off about 27.5grams in weight for exeptional original specimens and as low as only a few grams. This can vary slightly due to how they were made but don't vary with enough widely. If they are circulated (highly unlikely because the ship didn't make it from south america back to spain) or erroded/worn away or fractioned out to make smaller denominations this can change the weight on a real coin. Second all are irregular shaped because they were heated and cut off in varying weights (spanish used 1/2, 1, 2, 4, and 8 Reales coins they could be cut apart to make change from higher denominations kind of like chop marks on coins from the far east) from thrown together bars. Due to the poorly constructed hand made dies the only details that are almost always visible and present are the mint that hammered the coin(s) so spain knew which new world colonies were sending them what bars and cobs, the assay's mark showing the quality i.e. the guaranteed weight for the denomination and purity of the metal, and the denomination itself such as 2 Reales. What you MAY have is a replica that was made from any ingots or bars found on the ship when it was salvaged. I know they did that with some of the gold bars from the S.S. South America or you could have another coin entirely as the only perfectly round coins from that period came from the actual european countries and again they don't match the insciption you have is what should be on an Atocha but is perfectly round and spanish 8 reales coins that are perfectly round from spain around 1714 are two pillars with something inbetween.[/QUOTE]
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