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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3233, member: 112"]Hmmmm - this coin presents an intersting idea. There is no doubt that the reverse of the coin bears the crowned shiled of Castile & Leon. And the obverse bears the design of a 2 reale of Carlos II used in 1682. Only this coin has Carlos III as the monarch. Now then the interesting part.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1701 the Spanish War of Succession began, it lasted until 1713 ( 1715 by some accounts ). The primary opponents during this war were Philip V and Carlos III who was at the time the Arch Duke of Austria. As expected this war went back and forth with both sides winning at various times. But in 1705 Carlos III was indeed recognized and declared to be King Of Spain by his faction. Of course at the same time Philip V was still recognized as the legitimate King by his faction and most of the other monarchies of Europe.</p><p><br /></p><p>So - it does make me wonder one of two things. Either this coin is genuine and was struck by Carlos during this time that he was the supposed King of Spain or it is an elaborate counterfeit. Personally I have never heard of either as existing. But it does present an interesting possibility. I could easily see where the coin could be genuine as the striking of such coinage would be expected as it would go far towards establishing the legitmacy of Carlos' claim to the throne during the war. And if it is indeed genuine it would truly be something to hold onto - holed or not ! Regardless it definitely deserves further & serious rersearch.</p><p><br /></p><p>So LordNos - if I were you I would put that coin safely away and do my best to contact some of the leading experts for Spanish coinage.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3233, member: 112"]Hmmmm - this coin presents an intersting idea. There is no doubt that the reverse of the coin bears the crowned shiled of Castile & Leon. And the obverse bears the design of a 2 reale of Carlos II used in 1682. Only this coin has Carlos III as the monarch. Now then the interesting part. In 1701 the Spanish War of Succession began, it lasted until 1713 ( 1715 by some accounts ). The primary opponents during this war were Philip V and Carlos III who was at the time the Arch Duke of Austria. As expected this war went back and forth with both sides winning at various times. But in 1705 Carlos III was indeed recognized and declared to be King Of Spain by his faction. Of course at the same time Philip V was still recognized as the legitimate King by his faction and most of the other monarchies of Europe. So - it does make me wonder one of two things. Either this coin is genuine and was struck by Carlos during this time that he was the supposed King of Spain or it is an elaborate counterfeit. Personally I have never heard of either as existing. But it does present an interesting possibility. I could easily see where the coin could be genuine as the striking of such coinage would be expected as it would go far towards establishing the legitmacy of Carlos' claim to the throne during the war. And if it is indeed genuine it would truly be something to hold onto - holed or not ! Regardless it definitely deserves further & serious rersearch. So LordNos - if I were you I would put that coin safely away and do my best to contact some of the leading experts for Spanish coinage.[/QUOTE]
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