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<p>[QUOTE="Bart9349, post: 1506389, member: 5682"]Back to the coin in question:</p><p><br /></p><p>The year 1672 is very important in Dutch history. By 1672, the English under King Charles II joined the French in attacking the Dutch.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]193963.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p>(England's Charles II: the Merry Monarch known for being randy and for scheming with the French.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The English had hoped to settle the score for past humiliating defeats to the Dutch and to gain important access to Dutch trade and ports. Also, Charles II was receiving secret payments from the French King Louis XIV.</p><p><br /></p><p>It was Dutchman William III of Orange who helped manage a victory over the French Armies and relieved the sieges of several Dutch cities, including the city of Groningen of your coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>It was the same William III who later became King of England (1688) along with Charles’ niece Mary who became queen.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]193962.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p>(William III and his wife Mary. William and his wife usurped the throne from Mary's father James II. James II was the autocratic and overtly Catholic younger brother of Charles II who was was shrewder than James and only made a deathbed conversion to Catholicism. Although the Dutchman William III became king of England, his first love was always the Netherlands.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To add to the confusion, the Dutch and France were earlier allies against the Spanish during the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648). By the 1680s the Dutch had joined the Spanish (and anyone-else-willing) in an alliance against the French.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the subject of your coin, I think it is a fair price for a 25 Stuivers of its grade. (Check heritage.com to see a price comparison: A 1672 25 Stuvier XF 45 sold for $747 on Apr 16, 2011) </p><p><br /></p><p>Those who are commenting on your coin's grade might not be aware that this is emergency coinage struck during a siege. Much of the irregularities seen are from the coin planchet defect or the minting with hastily produced dies and not circulation. (Hey, I learned that from you people here at coin.talk. :biggrin<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>I think it is a very nice specimen and a great piece of history. </p><p><br /></p><p>Good stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>guy</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin sold for $506 :</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=3975&lang=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=3975&lang=1" rel="nofollow">http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=3975&lang=1</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bart9349, post: 1506389, member: 5682"]Back to the coin in question: The year 1672 is very important in Dutch history. By 1672, the English under King Charles II joined the French in attacking the Dutch. [ATTACH]193963.vB[/ATTACH] (England's Charles II: the Merry Monarch known for being randy and for scheming with the French.) The English had hoped to settle the score for past humiliating defeats to the Dutch and to gain important access to Dutch trade and ports. Also, Charles II was receiving secret payments from the French King Louis XIV. It was Dutchman William III of Orange who helped manage a victory over the French Armies and relieved the sieges of several Dutch cities, including the city of Groningen of your coin. It was the same William III who later became King of England (1688) along with Charles’ niece Mary who became queen. [ATTACH]193962.vB[/ATTACH] (William III and his wife Mary. William and his wife usurped the throne from Mary's father James II. James II was the autocratic and overtly Catholic younger brother of Charles II who was was shrewder than James and only made a deathbed conversion to Catholicism. Although the Dutchman William III became king of England, his first love was always the Netherlands.) To add to the confusion, the Dutch and France were earlier allies against the Spanish during the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648). By the 1680s the Dutch had joined the Spanish (and anyone-else-willing) in an alliance against the French. On the subject of your coin, I think it is a fair price for a 25 Stuivers of its grade. (Check heritage.com to see a price comparison: A 1672 25 Stuvier XF 45 sold for $747 on Apr 16, 2011) Those who are commenting on your coin's grade might not be aware that this is emergency coinage struck during a siege. Much of the irregularities seen are from the coin planchet defect or the minting with hastily produced dies and not circulation. (Hey, I learned that from you people here at coin.talk. :biggrin:) I think it is a very nice specimen and a great piece of history. Good stuff. guy This coin sold for $506 : [url]http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=3975&lang=1[/url][/QUOTE]
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