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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bardolph, post: 3111241, member: 96174&quot;]It&#039;s a reproduction of a coin that probably didn&#039;t exist. It is meant to be a silver 8 reales of 1663 from Madrid. However, in the history of the Madrid mint (Casa de Moneda de Madrid - Cantidades Acuñadas y Ensayadores, 1614-1868) by Glenn Stephen Murray Fantom, he states that there is no documentary evidence of 8 reales being struck in Madrid in various years, including 1663because of a severe shortage of silver bullion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, in his book, Ensayadores - Las Emisiones Monetarias Hispanicas by Josep Pellicer i Bru, the Madrid mintmark and that of the ensaydores (assayers) in Madrid at the time consists of either:</p><p><br /></p><p>(1) an M for Madrid above an S (crossed from bottom left to top right so that the S looks like the figure 8) for Sebastian Gonzalez de Castro with a small square dot above the M and under the S, or </p><p><br /></p><p>(2) the M over a simple S with a round dot above the M and under the S.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The four round dots on the obverse of this coin above and below the mint and assayer&#039;s mark are simply not found in Madrid coins during the reign of Philip IV.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally I have found the identical coin on a Spanish website. Click on</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.fuenterrebollo.com/faqs-numismatica/1663-8reales-madrid.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.fuenterrebollo.com/faqs-numismatica/1663-8reales-madrid.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuenterrebollo.com/faqs-numismatica/1663-8reales-madrid.html</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>Look at the top right arm of the letter X of REX - there is exactly the same small round dot, a minor production flaw. </p><p><br /></p><p>during the ri e is[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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