$1000 Bill

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  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Thought I would put this into Coin Chat since it does mention some coins at the end.
    From the LA Times:


    A rare $1,000 bill could fetch 3,000 times that
    The ‘Marcy note’ was issued in 1891 and is being sold at auction by a private collector.
    THIS ‘MARCY NOTE,’ a $1,000 bill from 1891, is the only known one outside of the Smithsonian. About 1,500 of them were issued by the U.S. Treasury. ( Stack’s Bowers Galleries)
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    In 1891, the U.S. Treasury printed some $1,000 bills — about 1,500 of them. Rather than enter mass circulation, though, the silver certificates were primarily used as a sort of proto-wire transfer among banks, says Peter Treglia, the director of currency for Stack’s Bowers Galleries, a coin and currency auctioneer.
    As a result, the bills never made it into private hands. They never even stayed in banks’ hands for long. “Back then, currency changed so frequently that the 1891 bills only circulated for two to three years,” Treglia said.
    One of those $1,000 bills ended up in the Smithsonian. Another remained in a private collection for more than 80 years; its first reported sale as a collectible item, rather than a piece of currency, was in the 1970s. The rest, presumably, were lost. (“I’d bet a lot of money that another one of these notes won’t turn up,” Treglia said. “Things are discovered all the time, but not of this magnitude.”)
    That single remaining note outside the Smithsonian, dubbed the “Marcy note” because it features a portrait of Sen. William Marcy (who also was secretary of war and governor of New York), is now up for auction with an estimate of $2 million to $3 million.
    “When we were brokering the deal, the seller wanted to break the world record,” Treglia said. “But in 2014, another banknote sold for just under $3.3 million, and the current estimate is where we feel the market is.”
    The seller is Joel R. Anderson, a noted currency collector who has begun to liquidate his collection. Stack’s Bowers has sold $26,184,240 from Anderson’s holdings already.
    Treglia said the Marcy note was barely considered a collector’s item until recently.
    “It would have cost just over face value in the 1940s,” he said. The first recorded price for the note that Treglia could find was in 1985, when it traded hands privately for $25,000. Next, it sold — again privately — for roughly $150,000 in 1992, he said. Its last recorded sale was in 2013, when it sold for $2.6 million.
    When it goes up for sale at Stack’s Bowers, during an auction that will take place between Feb. 28 and March 3 in Baltimore, it will be the first time it’s been sold on the public market.
    Given that the free market has never weighed in on the bill’s stated (and very significant) valuation, Treglia acknowledged that there’s a real question as to “how the hell this could be worth that much more in just 15 to 20 years.” The methodology the auction house used, he said, is “quite simple: You just take comparables to other unique items that don’t trade hands that often.”
    Using that rationale, there are, in fact, a number of recent sales that would indicate that the Stack’s Bowers valuation is within market parameters. A $1,000 Treasury note, also made in 1891 and also the only one of its kind outside the Smithsonian, sold for $2.5 million at Heritage Auctions in 2013; two years later, a penny from 1791 sold for $2.9 million in Orlando; and last year, a nickel from 1913 sold for more than $4.5 million.
    The Marcy note’s value does have a floor: $1,000. Even if every currency collector dropped out of the market, “the bill is still backed by the U.S. government — it’s legal tender,” Treglia said. “You could take it to the bank tomorrow, and technically, you’d be able to get change for it.”

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Great looking bill. Forget the value I like it! Thanks for the interesting write up.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Interesting!
    I like how they designed the shield..
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  5. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Old currency, and old coinage for that matter, were so much more interesting back in the day.
     
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  6. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Reminds me how dull modern currency is
     
  7. Zeppo Shanski

    Zeppo Shanski Active Member

    It's interestingly cool to consider the buying power of $1000 in 1891 compared to today. WOW.
     
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  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    What's the survival rate?
     
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  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I don't really know beyond what it says in the newspaper account.
     
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  10. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I find it hard to believe that only 1500 of them were ever printed. Especially if it was the main way banks transferred funds. I'm just speculating and have no facts to support my beliefs.
     
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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Assume whatever you like.
     
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  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

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  13. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I love it when paper money, and its potential value gets national attention. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well if the made 1500 and only 1 is known that makes the survival rate .07%
     
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