$100 counterfeit today at work

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by kSigSteve, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    There is a method that I was taught that has, until this point, worked flawlessly. Take a finger or thumbnail and drag it across an area of the printing that has lines. You should feel a texture, and if you do, the note was embossed, and not "printed".

    The pens don't work because, there is a specific brand of Hair Spray that you can use on a sheet of plain notebook paper, and the pen will write yellow and not black.
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    If you rub a potato over a good note, the pen will show counterfeit.
    The "ink" in those counterfeit pens is just iodine. In the presence of starches, iodine turns black.
     
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  4. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The why the note is torn should have been a dead give away ! it doesnt look natural
     
  5. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Yea horrible watermark. Looks like the ghost in Ghostbusters logo...

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  6. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Another counterfeit caught.

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  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I like the bloated John Belushi watermark.
     
  8. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    This is a fascinating thread!!
     
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  9. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    I work for a financial services company. The manager of our currency services unit told me at one time that the pens are really useless. The other frustration is that our branches would take any pen marked bills out of circulation by sending them back to the Fed for destruction.
     
  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The paper itself, the way it is ripped is a dead give away !
     
  11. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    It's been a quiet 5 months. Caught another today. No security strip or watermark. Easy pick ups on this one. Enjoy.

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  12. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Is the printing as fuzzy as it looks, or is the photo just a little blurry?
     
  13. nm1560

    nm1560 Member

    SN, position, FW SOI face plate, back plate seem legit. Can you post clearer pictures?
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Is it just printed on a color printer? Or is it offset printing? (The $20)
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Years ago my business took in a $100 and the bank kicked it back as fake. The SS came out and picked it up. He called it a fake and gave the workers a lesson on spotting fakes. A few weeks later the SS brought the bill back and said it was real.
     
  16. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    My business got stuck with 2 100s several months ago. They were passed to us by a police officer. The pen test is useless. These bills were printed on real paper. They were bleached $5 bills. The strip said $5. The watermark was from a$5. The ink was poor. What caught my eye was a bit of ink was smeared at the seal.

    We bought a simple money counting machine for 100 bucks. It also detects counterfeits. It works flawlessly. Every cash business should get one.
     
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  17. nm1560

    nm1560 Member

    In such a case will the feds redeem the initial value of the bills? Will you get your $10 back? I understand if the bills were complete fakes, fake ink, fake paper, etc. These bills were real $5 at one point. I mean you can send the feds damaged money and they still manage to redeem value as best they can. Can these bills be considered damaged $5? Just wondering.
     
  18. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    According to a friend who owns several retail establishments in rural northern Florida, counterfeit bills of all denominations are common, including fives. Most businesses still use the marking pen, but some now have a machine they feed bills into that supposedly is super accurate. According to the owner, when a counterfeit bill is detected the HD surveillance camera's memory is given to the authorities.
     
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  19. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Thanks for the comments.

    The paper seemed heavier and thinker and likely computer or copy paper. The feel and color was immediately the red flag.

    We ditched the pens and went to mini UV lights. At 365nm they show the glow of the security strip or lack there of.

    The font was blurry and didn't have a crisp look to it.

    I have had a bleach washed $5 with a $50 printed on it and we did not have it replaced as damaged.
     
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  20. Chuck S

    Chuck S New Member

    An easy way for the counterfeiter to by-pass the pen test is to spray the counterfeit bill with hair spray a head of time. The ink from the pen will not turn color if it has been sprayed.
     
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  21. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    So easy to tell on that one it just doesnt look right !
     
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