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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3185662, member: 19463"]Since I have not been buying ancient coins much lately I decided to dig out a group of Chinese (mostly) cash I have had for a while and see if I could ID them all using Hartill, <b>Cast Chinese Coins</b>. I know I am not cut out to be a cash specialist and will not be buying the expensive rarities that interest several of out CT posters but I thought I might enjoy learning something from the coins that never gave a fair chance back when the group came my way. So far, most seem to have gone pretty well but there are many duplicates which will require me to learn more to be sure they actually are duplicates of possibly minor variations I am too new to appreciate/understand. I see various references using different transliterations of names but decided to use data from Hartill (the largest book I have on the subject). I am photographing the coins and wonder if there is any convention I should observe as to the axis orientation of the reverse on coins with no reverse type. Is 12 o'clock correct? </p><p><br /></p><p>One that is fighting me is below. It seems to resemble Shao Xing yuan bao H17.41 (Seal script) but the Xing does not look at all like the Hartill drawing. The top part of that character looks close enough I could accept it but the lower half is not. The top of the character is a bit more like the drawing for the regular script coins lacking the central part between the two outside devices but mine shows the left sides of the two connected rather than the two inside corners. I feel the lack of proper terms that would describe these elements and make sense to someone who knows the subject. Hartill separates small, Regular script coins into official and unofficial so I could see that this may be an unofficial, large, Seal coin but is that character correctly called Xing? While I would appreciate having a proper ID, I would more like o know what I missed that should have enabled me to handle this one myself.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]821637[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>When I said 10,000 questions, I may have just meant 'many' but I am not all that certain that I won't exceed that number of total questions before I get through the heap of coins. So far I only have a two ID failures (of which I know) an the nagging question of how to tell a minor difference that means nothing from one more significant that should allow me to know something about the coin (mint, date, unofficial, fake???). I thank anyone who has the patience to answer this first (and even the rest) of my questions.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3185662, member: 19463"]Since I have not been buying ancient coins much lately I decided to dig out a group of Chinese (mostly) cash I have had for a while and see if I could ID them all using Hartill, [B]Cast Chinese Coins[/B]. I know I am not cut out to be a cash specialist and will not be buying the expensive rarities that interest several of out CT posters but I thought I might enjoy learning something from the coins that never gave a fair chance back when the group came my way. So far, most seem to have gone pretty well but there are many duplicates which will require me to learn more to be sure they actually are duplicates of possibly minor variations I am too new to appreciate/understand. I see various references using different transliterations of names but decided to use data from Hartill (the largest book I have on the subject). I am photographing the coins and wonder if there is any convention I should observe as to the axis orientation of the reverse on coins with no reverse type. Is 12 o'clock correct? One that is fighting me is below. It seems to resemble Shao Xing yuan bao H17.41 (Seal script) but the Xing does not look at all like the Hartill drawing. The top part of that character looks close enough I could accept it but the lower half is not. The top of the character is a bit more like the drawing for the regular script coins lacking the central part between the two outside devices but mine shows the left sides of the two connected rather than the two inside corners. I feel the lack of proper terms that would describe these elements and make sense to someone who knows the subject. Hartill separates small, Regular script coins into official and unofficial so I could see that this may be an unofficial, large, Seal coin but is that character correctly called Xing? While I would appreciate having a proper ID, I would more like o know what I missed that should have enabled me to handle this one myself. [ATTACH=full]821637[/ATTACH] When I said 10,000 questions, I may have just meant 'many' but I am not all that certain that I won't exceed that number of total questions before I get through the heap of coins. So far I only have a two ID failures (of which I know) an the nagging question of how to tell a minor difference that means nothing from one more significant that should allow me to know something about the coin (mint, date, unofficial, fake???). I thank anyone who has the patience to answer this first (and even the rest) of my questions.[/QUOTE]
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