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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 1794351, member: 26430"]Thanks all for the detailed responses!</p><p> </p><blockquote><p>Note -- aside from my coin, GDJMSP, your off-metal strikes are quite a remarkable addition to your regular collection of gold ducats! That's very cool (especially to have found two)!</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>GDJMSP, I've been getting feedback from others arguing strongly against it being an off-metal/pattern strike (undocumented variety in the pattern catalogs, which your coin(s) address; and the poor strike and wear, which your second coin shows, but seems unusual for a mid-19th century US coin). I'm trying to weigh that against evidence for it being a contemporary counterfeit (especially the traces of gold plating).</p><p> </p><p>Most responses I've heard argue for counterfeit with plating. I'm not familiar with counterfeits other than fake ancients, but it seems remarkably well made. I would assume it's struck, which would indicate stolen dies, I think, since I don't see any evidence of casting.</p><p> </p><p>I kind of like a combination scenario, however improbable: It's an off-metal "pattern" strike that some stole sometime in the 19th century and electroplated with gold to create a counterfeit... I suppose that would be a lot of effort for a thief to go through to make a quarter eagle.</p><p> </p><p>Perhaps I will start search for examples of $2.50 Liberty forgeries and see if I can find any others (they wouldn't have made just one).</p><p> </p><p>I paid a rather trivial amount for it, and I'm willing to pay NGC another service to give me an opinion. I wonder, though, if they determine it's a counterfeit (and thus illegal for a private individual to possess), do they keep it? Are they likely to have this same debate and just send it back as unidentifiable? I suppose I'll check the FAQ before sending it in![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 1794351, member: 26430"]Thanks all for the detailed responses! [INDENT=1]Note -- aside from my coin, GDJMSP, your off-metal strikes are quite a remarkable addition to your regular collection of gold ducats! That's very cool (especially to have found two)![/INDENT] GDJMSP, I've been getting feedback from others arguing strongly against it being an off-metal/pattern strike (undocumented variety in the pattern catalogs, which your coin(s) address; and the poor strike and wear, which your second coin shows, but seems unusual for a mid-19th century US coin). I'm trying to weigh that against evidence for it being a contemporary counterfeit (especially the traces of gold plating). Most responses I've heard argue for counterfeit with plating. I'm not familiar with counterfeits other than fake ancients, but it seems remarkably well made. I would assume it's struck, which would indicate stolen dies, I think, since I don't see any evidence of casting. I kind of like a combination scenario, however improbable: It's an off-metal "pattern" strike that some stole sometime in the 19th century and electroplated with gold to create a counterfeit... I suppose that would be a lot of effort for a thief to go through to make a quarter eagle. Perhaps I will start search for examples of $2.50 Liberty forgeries and see if I can find any others (they wouldn't have made just one). I paid a rather trivial amount for it, and I'm willing to pay NGC another service to give me an opinion. I wonder, though, if they determine it's a counterfeit (and thus illegal for a private individual to possess), do they keep it? Are they likely to have this same debate and just send it back as unidentifiable? I suppose I'll check the FAQ before sending it in![/QUOTE]
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