$1 - 1977A - Thumbprint on Washington's Face - PMG Certified

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  1. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hi all,
    I wanted to share this interesting $1.00 Bill I purchased. I say interesting because it looks to have a Thumbprint on Washington's Face! Now, I am not saying that this is some big BEP error or something with a high premium (I only paid $10.00 for this bill) but it could make an interesting conversation piece :wideyed:
    It was certified by PMG but not as an error. But it does have a sticky note attached to the face stating from the PMG grader that the Thumbprint may or may not happened at the BEP... Dirty Inky hands? :yack:

    :eek: What do you think about it? o_O
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  3. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Send it to IAFIS for authentication.
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If I was grading it I would say, from your photos, that the thumb print was applied after the fact. The ink looks different to me than BEP ink. Hope I'm wrong.
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    How does it look different? It's black ink :wacky:
    Not even the grader could tell the difference!
     
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  6. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    I'd get the sticky note certified first.
     
  7. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    for a wile at my local banks, they wanted thumb prints on checks cashed if you were not a account holder there. I would smudge mine on bills to fill in the cracks prior to leaving it on the check.
     
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  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The most astonishing thing is that it perfectly matches George Washington's own left thumbprint. Woo woo. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: Mulder and Scully, call your office.
     
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  9. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    Send it into the NBIB and see if they have it on record :hilarious:
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Considering the placement, I think it happened after.
    I am sure very expensive analysis could determine if it is BEP ink, or not.
    But no offense, the note is not worth putting more into it.
    Do they wear latex gloves at BEP?
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The very cool blue nitrile ones.
     
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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

  13. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    When I first saw this thread, I started thinking of the different scenarios possible for the thumb print.

    BEP employee, Wells Fargo employee, Where’s George member, virtually anyone with a black ink pad and a thumb.

    I believe we all agree the thumb print occurred after the note was printed, which alone adds no value to the note. If the thumb print was placed on the note prior to the BEP, then you’d have something special. Otherwise, it’s all speculation about who and when.
     
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  14. ace71499

    ace71499 Young Numismatic

    If only you knew a person in law enforcement that could run the finger print for you, then you could see if in 1977, this person was employed at the BEP or a bank :)
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can't really say but to my tired aching eyes the ink just looks different.
     
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  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I have a silver Ike with a bigfoot-sized thumprint on it, but I have to say I've never seen a bill with a thumprint on it.
     
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  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    i agree for $10 its a no brainier for purchase, a conversation piece for sure :)
    but i think someone was just trying to be funny, as it would be odd for someone
    at the mint to touch the note there on the face in that fashion so for me PMD or
    PTPD...LOL
     
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  18. MEC2

    MEC2 Enormous Member

    I've got an ink pad, for 10 times face I'll make you all the conversation pieces you want...
     
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  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Fingerprint typing should give us the guilty part..LOL
     
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  20. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @mpcusa & Steve
    Exactly.. I just wanted to show something interesting.. Something besides dumb threads such as "How much is my '666' serial number worth?" :facepalm::banghead:
    Well I can safely say that the PMG sticky note is original.. How many of those are ever seen! :woot:
     
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  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    It's interesting that they graded this note with the fingerprint.
    But not determining error/ post smudge is disappointing even lazy on their part.
    If the workers are supposed to wear latex gloves, how could this have happened at BEP?
     
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