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<p>[QUOTE="benveniste, post: 2541505, member: 25547"]If you take a look at the requirements for an UL-rated Residential Security Container, this shouldn't be a surprising result. The "5-minute" test for a USC assumes a single operator and no tools over 18 inches in length. Nevada Safe, of course, knew this when they set up this demonstration.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is such a "safe" better than nothing? Probably. On the downside, it tells thieves where the rest of the "good stuff" is after they already grabbed the jewelry and drugs. On the upside, it satisfies many insurance companies (at least for firearms) and meets legal requirements in California and several other states. And it's enough to thwart most individual thieves and many less-experienced teams.</p><p><br /></p><p>So once again, it comes down to "paranoia versus pocketbook." A "real" TL-15 gun safe of the size shown in the video would cost at least $5000 to buy and install. A smaller "real" safe for coin collections is considerably less expensive. So depending on relative value, the different levels of protection may make sense.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="benveniste, post: 2541505, member: 25547"]If you take a look at the requirements for an UL-rated Residential Security Container, this shouldn't be a surprising result. The "5-minute" test for a USC assumes a single operator and no tools over 18 inches in length. Nevada Safe, of course, knew this when they set up this demonstration. Is such a "safe" better than nothing? Probably. On the downside, it tells thieves where the rest of the "good stuff" is after they already grabbed the jewelry and drugs. On the upside, it satisfies many insurance companies (at least for firearms) and meets legal requirements in California and several other states. And it's enough to thwart most individual thieves and many less-experienced teams. So once again, it comes down to "paranoia versus pocketbook." A "real" TL-15 gun safe of the size shown in the video would cost at least $5000 to buy and install. A smaller "real" safe for coin collections is considerably less expensive. So depending on relative value, the different levels of protection may make sense.[/QUOTE]
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