09 S VDB

hey all. I took a risk on a raw 09 S VDB. Would like to hear thoughts on it prior to sending off for grading. Thanks in advance!

 

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https://www.pcgs.com/News/Counterfeit-Vs-Authentic-1909-s-Vdb-Lincoln-Cents

"You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din"..........
Kipling


I'd never hazard an 'unholdered' purchase on this one.......

 

I don't know much about 09S VDBs but looking at this:
https://www.pcgs.com/News/Counterfeit-Vs-Authentic-1909-s-Vdb-Lincoln-Cents

I'm leaning towards yours being a fake. Your "S" would probably match closest to "Mint Mark 4" but the serifs are not parallel IMO. Also the VDB doesn't look correct to me.

Again, I am no expert

 

It's not real.

 

I am absolutely no expert either but the B doesn't look right. Absolute shame if it is fake, what a beautiful coin.

 

"learning" would require a tad bit more info than "It's not real." But thank you for taking the 3.2 seconds of your day to make us all smarter.

 

I just wonder at a couple things with this post:

1) The color is so different on all the photos that it's impossible to determine the true color of the actual coin.

2) None of the shots are head-on, level (or rotated properly) shots, making us do mental gymnastics just to compare to the already existing diagnostic images.

3) No in-focus full coin images were provided.

So, why? I'm just curious.

 

What is this damaged area I see on the reverse ?

 

Those links provide good learning information. The VDB is usually pretty unique to the originals and in this case the central crossbar of the B looks too broad and horizontal to be original :/ again I have 99 percent of my knowledge from reading not from actual coins

 

Got this from PCGS.com sorry doesn't look real, I hope you can return it.


Thanks,
Jacob

 

I was using a Dino-Lite digital microscope without a stand, so I was trying to get the right focus on the date and mint mark. The color is different because I was trying to provide different lighting sources (microscope light on and off, plain halogen, etc.) The Dino-Lite works fantastic for "zoomed in" images, but it rotates in your hand. I really need a stand.

 

wow! good catch. I never saw that and I don't know! thanks for pointing it out!

 

Saw the dimple too, Bob, and thought it must have been 'photog fatigue'........

 

The more I stare at it I see more spots. Could it be a casting fake ?

 

What else was there to say. If you don't want opinions, don't ask. You know where you can shove your attitude.

 

I have never seen one that looks like that..

 

I am also suspicious on account of the mintmark’s serifs not being parallel to each other.

 

Now you take the full 30 seconds of your precious time to tell me where where I can shove it? You can just not respond to my posts and save us all the time it takes to read your lack of intellectual reposes and go back to your ever pitiful existence. Thanks for nothing man!

 

I gave you a reply and told you that you bought a fake. You got pissed and came back at me with trash. Now you come back with more trash. Check your attitude at the door. There was no need for your insulting remarks.

 

I post on here for the experience of learning more about coins than anywhere else on the internet and I enjoy reading what everyone sees that I may have missed. But inevitably, there is someone like you that feels the need to flex your keyboard muscles, act like edited and add absolutely nothing to the conversation. Even someone with zero experience can offer "it's not real" and know that they've not helped at all. Then you go further and tell me to "shove it". And now you're backpedaling and telling me that I don't need to have an attitude?!?! Get real. Thank you for your less than educational responses, move along... nothing more to see here.