“Unopened” US proof sets

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  1. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Mint set coins were specially made in 1974. They were struck by new dies under higher pressure on vertical numismatic presses and then the coins were washed and dried.

    Finding Gems in mint sets is like shooting fish in a barrel compared to finding them in BU rolls. You can't really find BU rolls of '74 dimes and quarters anyway since few were set aside.
     
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  3. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    yea thats true. Then when you find BU rolls of '74 quarters or dimes they cost a fortune, and sometimes not really OBW.
     
  4. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Indeed! The vast majority of BU rolls of the dimes and quarters are actually mint set coins. While these will be great in terms of average quality there will never be any spectacular or PL coins because this is what the roll assemblers are looking for.

    When mint sets are cut up to make rolls the worst 30% of the coins will go into circulation and the best 2% will go in for grading. What's left goes into rolls.

    Original BU rolls were scarce in 1975 and they're a lot scarcer today.
     
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  5. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Huh. That's interesting I never really realized that people cut open mint sets to make "OBW" rolls. I would think that selling a mint set would be a better premium than OBW rolls, but if they pull them apart it makes sense. Because if the coin from the set grades super high like MS68, then you could sell that for waaayyy over triple the cost of selling a mint set raw. And then selling the "OBW" rolls would also get some more money.

    Unrelated, but I've noticed that 1974 pennies, particularly Philadelphia Mint strikes typically look very nice, even BN specimens. The hair design is very strong on them, mint must have been in good condition and operating well that year.
     
  6. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I have personal sets from 62 and up till 95. Mother bought them for us girls. Can tell they were never opened cuz there sill in original packaging las time i looked. Also mint sets (multiple sets) in unopened mint boxes
     
  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    How wrong you are. You like to use a di tionary when you write. But after reading your posts I can see you nust like to talk
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Thesaurus........and I 'nust' like to talk too. :)
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Fallguy
    Fallguy is spot one. Sounds like he reads my mind. Some people are bags of wind. Mad cuz they dont have any clean sets.
     
  10. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Hi green. Yeah like you said. Treehouse
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ya know Cheech, you're real weird........but I like that.
     
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  12. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Remember what Bambi's mother said? :muted:
     
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  13. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

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  14. Jopn

    Jopn Member

    Love that look too. How does it occur? Don't see it on newer cents.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    A woodie occurs when the alloy making up the cent is improperly mixed. Modern cents have 100% Cu plating, so, no woodies possible.
     
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  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Feed your head?
     
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  17. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Ha beat me to it. Exactly what he said. Lots of people mistake them for toning. The lighter spots have more zinc or tin. I have one on a 1907 XF-AU IHC. Super cool, they are my favorite error. But they are easily confused with roller lines. As for the 1958 cent, I'm not to sure, hard to see in images, may just be the die polishing lines. Never know till we get more photos!
     
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  18. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Yes, but the OTHER time.... :phantom:
     
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  19. Jopn

    Jopn Member

    danke
     
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  20. Jopn

    Jopn Member

    Is itenhanced by uneven toning or do they come out of mint looking like that?
     
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  21. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Is it a woodie, or just striated scrapes in the cellophane?
     
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