Most people seem to think that natural toning requires long periods of time. It doesn't. Under the right conditions 100% natural toning can occur...
Basedon what I read in the OP's post the coin has no luster - and he bases that on an in hand inspection, not the pictures. Based on the...
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One person that I know of - Conder101. He wrote the book on slabs, it's the only book on slabs.
The Chinese fakes have gotten so good for worn coins like that there's no way to tell without seeing them in hand. The L on the '04 bothers me....
Well ya had me wondering. No way even they'd go higher than 64 given that 2nd obv shot. So I figured maybe they tagged it as harshly cleaned or...
In all honesty, I think there is a good chance it is a fake. Compare it to these genuine examples. See the difference between the 8 and 0 of your...
Hmmmmmm - if 58, 60, 62, 63, 64 are all way off, and given that second obv shot - reckon I'll have to guess it's in a Genuine holder.
I'd forgotten all about him, haven't seen or heard from him in years. I believe I taught him that technique ! If you still see him Chris, tell him...
You have look closely at the small details of the design. In particular look at the denticles on yours. You should see a vast difference.
I think it's pretty much well accepted that China had coins long before there even was a Lydia, but I agree that most literature will tell you...
I believe your coin is a fake copy of this one - http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Mexico_1757-Mo_MM_4_escudos
Can you post a picture of the coin you actually have ? Not a picture of one you think is like yours - but a picture of YOUR coin.
That will be enough arguing and making insulting comments. Any more of it and the thread will be closed. And keep in mind folks, there is one...
It isn't just PCGS. If memory serves the first fake slabs detected were ANACS slabs. Then NGC, and then PCGS. I am not aware of any in ICG slabs...
Fair enough. But then that is only true with a few select coins. I was not talking about every single coin, but in the general sense.
OK - look at this picture. You can see where the gold plating has split and has come off the coin. Look at the sharp edges. And you can see where...
I'm really not sure exactly what coins you are talking about. Or what fake holders for that matter. I don't even know if the slabs you are talking...
See post #8. What I said really is true.
It's the picture more than anything that makes me suspicious. You can see where the plating has worn away on the reverse.
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