Regarding the Future of the Bullion Section

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Peter T Davis, Jun 24, 2010.

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What to do about the Bullion Section

  1. A: Crack Down

    27 vote(s)
    34.2%
  2. B: Hidden

    5 vote(s)
    6.3%
  3. C: Separate

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  4. D: Nothing

    41 vote(s)
    51.9%
  1. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I realize that the general membership is separated from the moderators and administrative levels and their closed "board" meetings, and this is Ok with me, as I generally just stick with coin knowledge.

    But is there any mechanism where general membership could ask for an increase in the number of moderators as I think as the membership numbers grow, and this includes increases of those in Bullion Investing as well, the forum managers should consider increasing the number of their active moderators.

    It doesn't seem fair to say to tighten up, if the numbers of "enforcers" stay the same.

    IMO, with respect to the moderators and Peter,

    Jim
     
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  3. RedOakPresoBox

    RedOakPresoBox Junior Member

    I meant in addition to them. Otherwise what is the point of this thread? If you have it under control with mechanisms in place then why change it?

     
  4. AlexN2coins2004

    AlexN2coins2004 ASEsInMYClassifiedAD

    I would be in the same boat too :D
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You guys just don't listen do ya. I asked you, nicely, to stay on topic and not get into a discussion of gold, FDR's policies, what backs our money etc etc etc. And you completely ignored and when right on ahead.

    RedOak you say there should be more rules - why ? You completely ignore the rules we have, even ignore specific direction and instruction - so why would more rules do any good or be any different ?

    The rules we have are sufficient. YOU FOLKS just have to follow them.
     
  6. buzzard

    buzzard Active Member

    I voted D, The moderators do a excellent job.
     
  7. AlexN2coins2004

    AlexN2coins2004 ASEsInMYClassifiedAD

    politics does have something to do with bullion value as the U.S. dollar is where the price of gold and silver come from. if congress trashes the dollar by spending insanely too much money and people start dumping dollars for pm's what happens to the prices of pm's?

    the health care law, cap and trade, a vat tax. 3 political subjects that imo will make pm's jump to crazy prices. so by eliminating all politics from posts kinda limits the amount of valid information pertaining to what this specific forum is meant to be.

    I think the most important thing to consider isn't politics but whether someone is talking down or insulting others. opinions are just that opinions. I can have a opinion that dogs will one day grow wings but does that make it right? no, which is basically why people need to educate themselves as to what's actually going on and as a past poster already said grow thicker skin. people seem to have 2 bad qualities nowadays... 1st is sue happy and 2nd is taking offence far to quick and to an absurb degree.

    if I say I think cap and trade is going to make silver jump to $30/oz then I think I would need to also state a legitimate reason why and also do it in a civilized manner and respond to others that disagree with me in a civilized manner...otherwise I might as well go to the zoo and fling poo at the monkeys and acommplish nothing. :goofer:
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Jim things have changed recently, and yes Peter and I have talked about choosing another moderator, maybe more. And before someone starts offering - don't. Nobody that has ever volunteered to be a moderator has even been chosen as one and never will be.

    The hard part is picking the right person. Honestly, if Peter had his way we'd probably have 15 moderators by now. But I always talk him out of it.

    Why ? Because everytime we pick one all we do is get flack about it - complaints, complaints and then more complaints. Wahhhhhhhhhhh! :crying: People act like a bunch of damn babies. And besides, I truly do believe that too many is not a good thing for the forum. But too few is not a good thing either. It's a tough compromise to reach.
     
  9. RedOakPresoBox

    RedOakPresoBox Junior Member

    Look if you are talking the thread that got closed I never even saw your post. I was responding to posts as I was going through a couple of pages. After my last post the thread got closed. I didn't think anything of it until this thread got posted.

     
  10. AlexN2coins2004

    AlexN2coins2004 ASEsInMYClassifiedAD

    that's kinda what I was saying in my above post :D
     
  11. pale ridder

    pale ridder Junior Member

    Maybe,because i am one of the offenders? I say do nothing,i believe gold/silver,money...ect is tied closely to politics and can be part of a healthy thread. That said no i dont want to see "vote for so and so" but again i just go to a differnt thread and let thoughs threads die on there own.
     
  12. Canarche

    Canarche Junior Member

    It states in the rules. Keep it nice folks, like 50`s family television.
    I don`t know what part of it thats so hard to understand.
    If you can`t debate without personal attacks, you
    A: Did not read the rules.
    B: Don`t care about the rules.
    C: Are a disrespectful person.

    ill go with option A, out the door buddy, bye bye. Better for all of us here.
     
  13. KMSilver

    KMSilver New Member


    Shouldn't you watch your swearing? Lead by example administrator!
     
  14. Info Sponge

    Info Sponge Junior Member

    One problem is that there's a crowd of precious metals enthusiasts who treat it like a religion. They say the same things over and over, without regard to whether they're true, just because it's part of their creed. Gold is not an investment or a collectible to them, it is a reification of Virtue.

    It can ruin a conversation pretty quickly to have religious fanatics barge in on it. Especially when they discover someone not completely aligned with their faith.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I did - the word damn was used in '50s movies and television.
     
  16. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    In fact, it's use in movie dialog goes all the way back to 1939. Remember Clark Gable's closing line (as Rhett Butler) in Gone With the Wind? Here's one pre-teen who was shocked by its use!

    Ah, the excitement of telling your schoolyard friends "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." (BTW he didn't say "Frankly Scarlet . . .")
     
  17. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    An Appropriate Interjection?

    I believe that Dougs' use of the word damn is a patiently appropriate expression of irritation, as one might find the word defined in a collegiate dictionary, and he needn't defend himself. I suspect that I speak for the majority in commending the moderators for their considerate efforts in maintaining a civil atmosphere when seemingly contentious subjects are discussed. I personally voted for "choice C", as I recognize that those who would ignore/violate the prominently displayed rules for discourse when discussing controversial subjects, are just inconsiderate to the majority. Members of a civil society generally appreciate "police", but take exception to a "police state". It would be foolhardy to add "police" because of the actions of a minority, and ignoring the antics of few leads to site degradation for those who would prefer learned discussion. I trust that objectivity/respect will exist if those voting to maintain "status quo" prevail, but strongly suggest that if PM/politics/theology can't be studied without general offense, their extensive mention should probably be relegated to an isolated site apart from one which namedly values learning about Numismatics Et Al. I plead that those with a civil agenda will join the moderators in assisting to maintain an atmosphere of relative peaceful discourse. I personally greatly appreciate the balanced efforts of the moderators on this site, and extend thanks for same. :hug:
     
  18. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Honestly what is wrong with people? I don't know why we have such smartalecs on here that think they are being cute with calling at an administrator. Anybody think they can go toe to toe with Doug? I've got good 'sparring' skills myself, but I would never find it right upon myself to call out Doug on something not related to numismatics. Doug is a grown man, been there, done that, if he makes a mistake it is on him, he doesn't need anybody to give him heat about anything.

    He said damn, the word is used to show strong emotion, and guess what, he was ticked in his post, he used the word as an adjective to describe emotion. Doug is an admin, and he ain't playing around.

    Grow up people.
     
  19. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I am sure the administrators and moderators of this forum know how to read and write. I vote that we the regular citizens of this community quit using the complaint function to empower ourselves as moderators.
     
  20. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    Possible Respectful Objection

    [QUOTE=justafarmer;934246]I am sure the administrators and moderators of this forum know how to read and write. I vote that we the regular citizens of this community quit trying to empower ourselves as moderators by using the complaint function.[/QUOTE]

    If your post intent is to use the "complaint function" in suppressing majority assistance to moderators for genteel reminder of rule violation to a minority, I believe the majority respectfully take exception to same. As you've elegantly presented: "I am sure the administrators and moderators of this forum know how to read and write". If they even minimally express their preference to not have majority members tactfully remind "violators" of their error, I, and am certain other reasoned individuals will restrain ourselves. Thank you for your "words of wisdom". :thumb:
     
  21. NPCoin

    NPCoin Resident Imbecile

    The term "numismatics" is a broad term and encompasses many divergent aspects in the study of money. The etymology of the word "numismatics" shows that the word does cover such things as bullion. I gave a short study of this at Collector's Society a few months back when the question of casino tokens in numismatics came up.

    Bullion is very much a part of "pure" numismatics. What some look for is not for Coin Talk to be a "pure" numismatic forum, but rather, a government issued legal tender numismatic forum, which is very precise and constrained.
     
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