Platinum is turning it to a deal at present levels

Conversely, there are many millions that commute fair distances daily. Your situation is a not a valid argument in the discussion of needing massive amounts of charging stations nationwide.

 

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Electric golf carts to ride around the State Fair is about as far as I am going Withem. We chipped it out and it will move about 33mph downhill. too fast for me. but I had to try it!

 

Conversely to that, though, some thoughts on this subject:

Worldwide, there are give or take 10 Mil. EVs
There are 1.2 Mil. in U.S., give or take. That represents 1% or so of all registered vehicles in U.S.
80% of EV sales to date are Tesla EVs.

The top three States with registered EVs:
CA. 500K.
Florida 58K.
TX. 52K.
The 7.5K tax deduction ended in 2019.

The commuter issue... Where are these many millions EV owners with a commuter problem? Seems like an individual choice, to me, for an EV and where the commuter lives, so......

Yes, yes, Ford is going to have all EVs by 2035 (we will see).
Other U.S. auto manufacturers are blowing their horn with the I will raise you on that date (we will see).

It would seem, for the moment, that your converse argument is not valid at the moment, either. Maybe, and I strongly emphasize maybe...you will have a valid argument in 2035. By then the solution will be more easily addressed by residence EV charging packets, as opposed to making the other present 99% of registered vehicle owners that do not need EV charging have their tax dollars used for same. I %. Again, 1%. Does that seem a valid reason to install 100 million charging stations?

 

Let's start here.

Nowhere in any of my posts did I state a number of 100,000,000 charging stations. You're quoting someone else.

Having a centralized charging station, akin to our current gas stations, as opposed to residence charging 'packets', doesn't change the electric demand on the grid at all. The exact same amount of electric use is just split into more charging stations. I fail to see how that would lower the demand to avert the rolling blackouts various locales are already defaulting to. Now increase consumer usage of EV and that demand only increases.

My point is this. The powers that be are pushing hard for the transition to EV before they're upgrading the infrastructure to handle the increased load. I'm not saying anywhere in my posts that EV's will not ever be a solution. I'm saying they're not promoting this transition logically. It's like they're saying let's build ICE vehicles and then we'll figure out how to drill for oil, refine the oil into usable gasoline, deliver the gas around the country, build fueling stations, and finally deliver the gas to the consumer. They're putting the proverbial cart before the horse.

The old adage, plan the work and work the plan, is not being done. At least it's not being done efficiently.

 

The trolls are back...LOL, I just love seeing them in the like section, my own little fan club

 

Two completely different types of investments, you can do both you know

 

OK. Missed the point entirely but OK, and a few strawman posits thrown in to add a perceived credibility to the Post, but OK. We will see how the 2035 thing goes.

 

I'm one. If I had an electric vehicle, I'd likely drive it 100 miles a week or less. At that rate, I could plug it in with a heavy-duty extension cord into a regular outlet overnight, and I'd always be nearly full up. Needless to say, I don't live in Southern California. Or Montana.

 

“Nowhere in any of my posts did I state a number of 100,000,000 charging stations. You're quoting someone else”


But my reply was to the 100 mil post…I never said that everyone lives my lifestyle or that I don’t need a gas powered vehicle for long trips….This issue is going to take many baby steps along with technological breakthroughs.

 

It may have been a little over exaggeration, but its probably not that far off from what would be necessary. Every truck stop would need hundreds if not thousands given that it no longer takes just a few minutes to fill up their tank and that truckers will stay plugged in while they sleep to keep the heat or ac running. Then places like the southwest where youd have huge log jams of cars waiting to charge up before entering the desert where it can be 100 miles or more until you come across anything. Large cities would basically just need them in every parking space since there wouldnt be room to make large charging gas stations etc

 

Unfortunately unreasonably long waiting periods for anything electric

 

You can say that again. I'm in a position where I actually could consider a pure-electric vehicle (we have an alternate for longer trips). We've got to add one vehicle and replace another -- and this is a terrible time to be looking for vehicles.

 

The grid we have is already over-burdened in a lot of places. We seem to be intent on supplying more people and having more extreme weather events but not adding any major generating power. If everyone gets their own solar panels to charge their cars it's a start but that isn't free.
There's issues with all power generation. Hydro-electric disrupts ecosystems. Nuclear creates waste and often generates too much power when you don't need it and then isn't easy to get cranked back up when you do need it. Wind is great but the wind doesn't always blow. The sun doesn't always shine. Panels are expensive and it takes a lot of them because the best of the best are not that efficient.
Then you have the huge problem of storing the excess energy. It's my understanding that most of this green energy is used on demand and is unable to be stored which is half the problem. Batteries are too expensive. I think a lot of people believe it is getting stored somewhere when it's not. It's just used as it's made. You fall back on the dirty energy when the green isnt' making any.
Think it's great we're pursuing all types of energy I just wish everyone could be realistic about "needs vs. capabilities". We'd all be on the same page if this was clearly understood. But,you have to *want to* understand it in the first place which is where alot of people hit a road block. Too many people live in their own heads thinking the impossible is possible for every issue that affects society. Economic plausibility and basic physics are scoffed at or simply ignored.

 

The Pickens are slim to none, my son just bought a Tesla was waiting for the model X for over a year ! they kept telling him another few moths, finally got fed up
and bought the Model S " Plaid " what else would you do with $157.000 !
you ever been in a rocket ship ! this is faster ! 1/4 9.90 ( Horse power 1,020 !)
its getting some more work done art Tesla when it comes back will post some pictures, when he does get it back going down to Las Vegas for some 1/4 mile
action, should be fun

 

Vehicle yeah, I ordered a new ford truck December 6, 2021, traded in a 2017 F-150 King ranch made the deal at the Ford Dealership ask me not to put over 110,000 miles. This was December and I had 93,000 plus some change. The end of the month I had 96,000 I went over told them I would be over 110.000 so I went ahead gave them the truck my new one will be here in March or first of April. still to this date no new truck it is sitting in Michigan in a Railyard now for 6 weeks. Hell, I would of drove up to Michigan and picked up truck myself in that amount of time. Up and back in less than two days compared to six weeks and counting.

 

Rail Strike pending.....Start driving to Michigan.

 

I can’t afford the gas…LOL

 

Wife wanted wanted a PHEV over a year ago but those are harder to find than an EV - so we got a hybrid SUV with 38MPG. Been nice change from our ancient SUV that got around 20MPG especially with gas prices. I work from home and wife works locally. In two more years we will search again for a second car and hopefully PHEV or perhaps EV will be more prevalent in the market. We live in an area with abundant reliable power and endless water.

 

The market share for electric vehicles is growing, especially for full electric ones however price is still prohibitive for most models.

 

The market share for FANG fueled vehicles is also growing, and at a faster pace.
So.....