Would ANACS have straight graded this 78CC?

Hi!

New here. There's this 1878CC Morgan I'd like to buy, but it has what looks like a scratch either on the holder or the coin.
https://imgur.com/a/pqgmmuO

https://imgur.com/a/CQH8JLb

Do you think this mark is on the coin itself? Would ANACS have given this a 63 back then with a scratch like that on it?

 

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Looks like scratch on the Coin itself. Next time upload Pics. Not links. Welcome to CoinTalk.

 

Certainly not impossible. The services sometimes miss things, or sometimes things get a pass.
This coin shows the type of in holder toning Morgans seem to develope in them...possibly for some reason the scrape is more noticeable than when the coin was slabbed.
(Provided the scratch is on the coin, can't tell for sure.)

 

Looks like a minor scratch on the luster and straight graded but hard to see in the pics.

 

I've seen some results while Googling around talking about how ANACS graded coins details for the tiniest, not very noticeable scratch. So them not grading this one details kind of confuses me if it's on the coin. But it also was a earlier time, I believe this slab is from the early 90s?

 

I have a 84cc NGC MS-64 with a light scratch through the luster but not really in the coin at all so thats why I think this may be similar

 

So would you all believe this scratch would detract from the value? I think personally, for me it does. But I'm not sure how it would do if you posted it in, say, an auction.

 

I personally believe the "scratch" is insignificant relative to what is being seen from the premier TPG. If my link loads, look at the believed scratch in front of the ear on this premium coin: https://www.ebay.com/itm/325010568511?hash=item4bac23b53f:g:cRUAAOSwBEthO8ca

JMHO

 

I dont think so but if you can get full size pics posted on here I may say different but would say no from what I saw.

 

I think sometimes the graders believe issues may have been when it was struck or issues with the planchet. Or sometimes it looks like a scratch but they perceive it to be something else. I'll give you a wild example in an NGC slab. My 1921 high relief Peace. It was graded MS-61. There's a large obvious mark in the field that doesn't show up on the camera that well but shows up really well in hand. It looks like a big scratch to me but that's not what the graders at NGC thought. If it was raw I would've guess it would have no chance to straight grade. So, I have no idea what it is or what they thought it is. But it's a MS-61 officially. They must have looked at it under magnification and determined it was not a scratch.

 

I wouldn't say that the in front of ear scratch you linked is quite as bad as this one TBH. This one stands out to me, maybe because it's right in front of the date.

 

From those 1878-CC reverse shots, I see what looks like a hit from another coin's reeding to the left of the eagle, and what looks like a small scratch between * and ONE. I don't know how TPGs handle scratches that small, but it doesn't detract that much in my opinion. And the hit is perfectly legit for an MS63 coin.

I've had people tell me ANACS was too generous with their grades, but usually it was when I was trying to sell them something in an ANACS slab. I did sell my ANACS MS62 1921 Peace at a local show a couple of months ago; the dealer, whom I trust, said he thought it was accurately graded.

 

I don't think that's a scratch. Look at how it changes with the light and angle:





I think it's just another luster break, with its texture catching the light in the upper shot but not in the lower one.

 

I think the bottom line is - if it bothers you, pass on the coin. FWIW, to my untrained eye it looks to be on the coin rather than the holder but whether or not it's an actual scratch I wouldn't hazard a guess.

 

If you don't care about the slab crack it open and re-submit it to somebody. You'll find out in a hurry if it's on the slab or the coin and maybe get a better look at it. Unless ANACs has a registry, it's not going to be a big loss. A lot of people want stuff in PCGS and NGC slabs for their registry sets. I just cracked an ICG slab for a crossover yesterday that I will share at a later time here.

 

ANACS during the early days of ownership by Amos Press.

They were beginning to abandon technical grading, the ANA Grading Standards and embrace market grading.

Is the coin MA? (Market Acceptable)? Then it would get a straight grade.

 

MS-63 is nothing to bulk at. All Morgan's are collector coins in my opinion. Your coin is no exception it's a very nice coin and graded appropriately scratch or no scratch. Thanks for sharing your CC gem.