And Charles Hayes may have "heard" something that wasn't 100% accurate. So he may be telling the truth as he knew it, but it wasn't accurate.
I moved all these posts to Coin Chat because the Numismatic Resources section is not for purposes of discussion. The Numismatic Resources section sole purpose is to allow members to post informational links there - that's it.
Heck, I'm still looking for the original 15-year-old post that several members have mentioned/questioned, but it doesn't seem to be here unless I overlooked it. I don't always navigate well so maybe it's here somewhere. Still, I just today, Mar 12, got an alert that a Feb 9 reply of mine...an unintentional off-shoot from another thread (it happens) that went to grading...had been relocated to the grading companies forum...now over a month later. Oh well, at least I know where it is/went
It's right where I said it was - in the Numismatic Resources section - https://www.cointalk.com/threads/grading-companies.14081/
Re: "It's right where I said it was..." Well, la dee da...it wasn't there the last time I had read through these and before I replied with mine...sometimes I come back to something later and don't always check again right before replying...and sometimes I just overlook things...so whichever it was, please excuse me.
I was looking for a thread on grading tokens, and my question is undecided - I've used ICG for world coins and US coins, and while I've been grumbly about some of the results (my 21 SLQ is at least a VF30!!!! lol) I have no issue with them, I love their prices, accessibility, turnaround is decent, EXCEPT with some of the tokens - compared to some of the NGC slabs they don't (in my limited opinion) appear to be grading on how the coins were produced, but just on general standards of "this should be this" even when it's like an early SLQ - you're not going to see a good solid date on a lower grade SLQ before 1925, I mean they are all over that because their graders are obviously masters of that stuff, but an 1892 World Newspaper token? They don't seem to worry so much or be aware of the die issues / normal - better token appearance of some of the particular items. I don't know much, so I can't stand by that, but I am planning on sending five or six tokens, three of which have been, in my opinion, under graded by ICG in for regrading (raw). I think to NGC. Anyone have any opinions on that? Am I being stupid? NGC is the right call for old tokens / medals or not?
It almost seems like they do it on purpose. here is two Peace Dollars, both PCGS MS64, both were graded 9 years apart, but have the exact same off centering.