Best coins of the year costing $20 or less

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Valentinian, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    If you pay more, you can buy better coins. That's obvious. Some of the "Top 10" threads include very expensive coins. That's great and we love to see them. Keep them coming.

    Many of us sometimes buy inexpensive coins and this thread is about them. The arbitrary limit of $20 includes shipping (because shipping costs are a real part of the cost).

    My best coin under $20 came yesterday:

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    This example is remarkably large at 31-29 mm (many are as small as 25 mm). 5.32 grams.

    Byzantine emperor Romanus IV, 1068-1071. He is most famous for losing the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, the greatest Roman military disaster since the Battle of Adrianopole in 378.

    Facing bust of Christ: IC XC/NI KA in small letters in the field
    Cross with X in the middle and C R / P Δ in the quadrants,
    which from seals with similar words spelled out we think abbreviates [DOC 3.2 page 788]
    Oh Cross, Protect me, Romanus Diogenes

    Sear 1866. DOC 3.2 Romanus IV 8, page 796-7 and plate LXV.
    From a European auction with shipping prorated over the value of four coins.

    One positive thing about collecting Byzantine copper is it is possible to get coins comparable to plate coins (presumably among the best) for remarkably little money.

    Show us some coins you bought for $20 or less.
     
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  3. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    I wish I stayed to that kind of budget... My cc balance wouldn't be the mess it is today. Here is my only coin under £20:

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  4. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    I haven't posted the full write-up yet, but this Abbasid dirham dated 148 AH (765 AD) and from a scarce mint (al-Rayy), cost me just $12 bid and $5 shipping:
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  5. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I bought a lot of coins for under 20$ this year. The best buy was just over 20$ though; 17£:

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    Syria, Seleukeia. AE21c. 2nd Century BC

    Obverse: Laureate head of Zeus to right

    Reverse: ΣΕΛΕΥΚΕΩΝ / ΤΩΝ ΕΝ ΠΙΕΡΙΑΙ Thunderbolt; below, monogram above; all within wreath

    Reference: BMC 10-13"

    Weight: 7g Diameter: 21 mm Condition: Extremely Fine, Artistic dies.
     
  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    The only ancient I bought this year under $20.

    World coins would be a big post.

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    Numerian (283 - 284 A.D.)
    Egypt, Alexandria
    Billon Tetradrachm
    O: A K M A NOVMEPIANOC CEB, laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    R: Eagle standing left, head right, wings open, wreath in beak, between Vexilla; LB (date)/* above.Dated RY 2 (283/4 AD).
    7.25g
    18mm
    Köln 3191; Dattari 5617; Milne 4729; Emmett 4018.
     
  7. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    I did a list of my favorite 2020 bargain purchases recently, so in order to not repeat myself, I'll post two coins that almost made said list:

    An unusually nice Cripus with an even more unusual mintmark. €13.50 shipped:
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    Crispus, Roman Empire, AE 3, 321–324 AD, Siscia mint. Obv: IVL CRISPVS NOB C; head of Crispus, laureate, r. Rev: CAESARVM NOSTRORVM; VOT X in wreath; in exergue ΔSISC (sunrise). 20mm, 3.24g. Ref: RIC VII Siscia 181.

    A very attractive Indian medieval "Gadhaiya paisa." $5 shipped:
    Orient, MA – Chalukya von Gujarat, Gadhaiya Paisa, Exemplar 2.png
    Chalukyas of Gujarat, AR “Gadhaiya paisa” (copying earlier Sasanian drachms), c. 1030–1120 AD. Obv: stylized portrait of ruler r. Rev: stylized fire altar. 17mm, 4.01g. Ref: Series 1.4.3; Deyell 158; Mitchiner NI 427.
     
  8. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Well, this coin is hopefully good. Got it off EBay several years ago AlexanderIII, AE, 18.6 mm, 5.41 gm 7C1AD715-01A1-4E22-9AF0-1986482774C3.jpeg FE415A8A-8D90-4CCD-B73F-E906973F1498.jpeg
     
  9. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    My best deal ever concerning an ancient coin is this Nero denarius,
    got for around 26 bucks if I the include postage!
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    And this Parthian drachm, for 17 bucks!
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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    London Constantine VLPP. Not in hand yet. It’s on its way. $16.69.

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  11. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

  12. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Wow, this is a solid grouping of coins for around $20 apiece! I think, so far, @Valentinian's contribution is my favorite.

    Sadly, I don't think I even bought any ancients this year. COVID messed with my cash flow so hard that coins became a luxury I felt I couldn't afford to spend too much on for a while.

    Side note: @Parthicus (or anybody else), is there any good guide to attributing these Islamic dihrams for someone who doesn't read Arabic? Preferably, one including a "just enough Arabic for Islamic coins" section, or the like. Likewise with Parthian and Sassnian coins... these intimidate me overly much because I can't read the language on them.
     
  13. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

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    got all of these for $20 or under this last year.
     
  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Well done! You got some excellent pieces. I particular like the Gratian (first coin) and Constantine commemorative (last coin), but the others are worthy too.
     
  15. aleppo

    aleppo Member

    looks great! which auction was this
     
  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    This was LESS THAN TEN BUCKS!!!!!!!!

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  17. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    The book you're looking for is Richard Plant: Arabic Coins and How to Read Them (1975 and later). My non-numismatic knowledge of Arabic is unfortunately limited to "na'am," "laa," "shukran," and "ana min Almaniya" – but using Plant and and a bit of patience, I'm able to decipher most medieval Arabic legends and get their meaning.

    Used copies are available for little money via Amazon and the other usual channels, and the book is also online here.

    And to keep it thread-related, here is a late medieval Indian coin with Arabic legends I bought this year for a measly $6 shipped:
    Orient, MA – Bahmani Sultanat, Firuz Schah, 1397–1422, AE Falus, GG BH66.png
    Bahmani Sultanate, under Firuz Shah, AE falus, 1397-1422, Ahsanabad (Gulbarga) mint. Obv: “firuz shah Bahamani.” Rev: “raji ridwan muhaimani” (‘He who seeks the approval of the confiding one’). 16.5mm, 5.41g. Ref: GG BH66.
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I love Proto Monies... a leap of faith defining value and a trust to transact an abstract object for a good or service. These were some of the starting points and objects to perform this:

    I have Celtic Rings, but this is a different piece that is attractive, especially for the value for a Human made object representing money from 2700 years ago.

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    CELTIC TRIBES.
    700-500 BC.
    Æ Ring, 3.0g, 23mm.
    Three arches.
    From the DePew Collection
    Ex: @John Anthony



     
  19. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Thanks! It was Pars Coins Auction 10. This was basically just a little extra bid for me- I was mainly interested in some Persis and Sasanian coins- so I was happily surprised to win this. I guess nobody noticed (or cared about) the scarce mint and just ignored a less-than-perfect Abbasid dirham.

    @Paul M. : I heartily second @Orielensis recommendation of Richard Plant's "Arabic Coins and How to Read Them". I am also not able to speak or read Arabic at a practical level, but this book gives exactly what you need to figure out coin inscriptions. I also recommend another book by the same author, "Greek, Semitic, and Asiatic Coins and How to Read Them", which covers a huge range of other scripts including Persian, Chinese (for cash coins), the many different scripts of India, and more.

    For Sasanians, the book I use the most is Robert Gobl's "Sasanian Numismatics". Identification to a particular emperor is usually based on the king's distinctive crown (though the name is often also readable on obverse), mint and date are readable on reverse (for many issues, but the earlier coins don't have date or mint). Some useful websites:
    https://www.beastcoins.com/Sasanian/Sasanian.htm
    https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Sasanian Dates
    https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Sasanian Mints
    (Note that attribution of mintmarks to specific cities is disputed, and different sources list different cities for the same mintmark.)

    For Parthians, I use Sellwood's "An Introduction to the Coinage of Parthia (Second Edition)" to determine type, and check with G.R.F. Assar's essay in the Sunrise Collection book to see the more recent attribution of types to particular kings. (Parthian history is poorly understood compared to Roman, and the Parthians mostly didn't put the king's name on the coins, so attributions will differ depending on which reference you use. Major auctions seem to have shifted to using Assar's IDs, though you do still see attributions based on Sellwood or Shore.) For online resources, parthia.com is still very useful, but hasn't had many updates in a long time. I'd start with this site and go from there:
    https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=parthian coins

    Or, you could just post an unknown coin here on CoinTalk and let us hash out the ID. But it's more fun to be able to do it yourself.
     
  20. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Most of my ancients cost under $20, and although my collection is by no means high grade, I am still amazed at what semi-decent stuff is available on the cheap.

    In keeping with the OP, here are some 2020 Byzantines that were $20 or under:

    Anastasius Follis with dots above stars on reverse (SB 21; MIB 28b). These were issued in the last months of Anastasius's reign and are a bit scarce. Soon after getting my first one ($16), a second one came along ($15):

    Byz - Anastasius Const. follis dots Oct 2020 (0).jpg
    Byz - Anastasius Con Follis Dec 2020 (0).jpg

    Anastasius Follis, small module, two stars (SB 16). This one just came in - I've been collecting Byzantine only since 2013, so I am no authority, but these small module examples are hard to find, I think. This one was $9.95.
    Byz - Anastasius I Const follis small Dec 2020 (0a).jpg

    Here is an ugly Justin I 12 nummi from Antioch (SB 112). What made this worthwhile is the strange striking characteristics on the reverse - a double die? I don't know what is going on but I liked it. At $1.15, it was well worth it:

    Byz - Justin I 12 nummi Antioch Nov 2020 (2).jpg

    Justinian I follis (SB 163). These forward-facing Justinian I folles are expensive a lot of the time. At $20 this isn't lovely, but not bad for the price, I think:

    Byz - Justinian I Const follis Dec 2020 (0).jpg

    Constans II follis, Constantinople (SB 1000). This was $0.99! These are always rather crude, but this one really appeals to me, especially for the price:

    Byz - Constans II - Follis Const. Jan 2020 (0).jpg

    Sometimes Byzantine lots come along that have some pretty interesting stuff in it, at least for a duffer like me. For $21.24 total:

    Byzantine - Lot of 6 NC $21.24 Oct 2020 (0).jpg

    Back in January I got this lot for $30 total. I used an eBay gift card from my boss, so it was free, in a way:

    Byzantine Follis 5 Adam $30 Jan 2020 (0).jpg

    This $30 lot came with what is certainly the scarcest Byzantine I own, the mysterious Justinian I follis from Salona/Ravenna (full attribution below):
    Byzantine Follis 5 from Adam Jan 2020 (1).jpg
    Justinian I Æ Follis
    (c. 540s-550s or 562-565 A.D.)
    Salona / Ravenna Mint (?)
    (Military Mint)

    IVSTI[NI]ANVS PP, Helmeted facing bust, holding globus cruciger and shield; cross to right / Large M; cross above,
    no mintmark or Officina.
    DOC I 358; MIBE 248; SB 329.
    (6.43 grams / 21 mm)
    eBay Jan. 2020 Lot @ $6.00

    "The correct attribution of this unsigned series of bronzes remains uncertain, but numerous examples have been found in the environs of Salona in Illyria... Grierson supports a date in the 540s-550s...while Hahn dates it to 562-565...the reduced size, simplified design, and scarcity of these bronzes speaks of a short-lived issue of limited circulation."
    CNG Auctions (several)

    I didn't include shipping in the prices noted above, but most of these were from the USA, so $3 to $5 or so for shipping generally. No auction fees because I always use eBay.
     
  21. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    This little archaic Greek coin I won at an ebay auction in Germany, last April. It was only 17 dollars. I wanted it because the nose and mouth of Apollo exactly follow the form of the coin! Makes it a tiny Apollo sculpture.
    Colophon, Ionia, 530-500 BC, 6 mm, 0.24 gr.

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    I made this pic myself with the incuse reverse, but naturally, it is not as sharp as the seller's:

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