Featured Fulvia: She was a better man than I... or Marcus Antonius for that matter

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Fulvia 83(ish)-40 BCE. Italian born. Died in Greece:

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    Here we have my latest dream girl. The first Roman coin with the image of a woman on it, that isn't a godess. Though, with that adorable wind blown back hairstyle, thin supple neck and as she was a most fertile Mertyl (having at least 5 children) was probably a mynx in the sack, she's certainly a godess to me. I pretty much stole her at Sunday's Savoca auction and already have her in hand:
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    FULVIA, first wife of Mark Antony, died 40 BC. AR Quinarius (12 mm, 1.65 gm), yr. 41 (42 BC). Bust of winged Victory with likeness of Fulvia / Lion walking. RSC.3. Cr.489/6

    Fulvia married 3 prominent Roman statesmen. Most believe she had a hand in all their political affairs. Led the fortification of a town under siege. Saved her family, well her husband's family anyway. She would save the life of Marc's brother before his political misjudgments would cost him his life. Before the drunkard Antonius would leave her for some floozy from the south side...
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    Marc Antony & Octavian
    AR Quinarius. Military mint
    moving with Octavian, 39
    BC. Head of Concordia right,
    wearing diadem and veil, III
    VIR R P C around / Two
    hands clasped around
    caduceus, M ANTON C
    CAESAR around. Crawford
    529/4b

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    Marc Antony Legionary
    AR Denarius. Military mint
    moving with Antony
    (Patrae?), Autumn 32-Spring
    31 BC. Praetorian galley
    right / slate w/encrustation


    Heck, she is even famously the main reason for Cicero's murder. Cicero spoke out against her and, then, hubby Marc Antony. Even spitting so much shade that he stated in one of his major speeches that Marc just married her for her money!

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    She had the last laugh though. By sticking pins into his severed head's tongue. One for each insult he garnered with her name!

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    Despite all this praise (and insanity), there is no great Fulvia book. No Roman monument to her. Man, we're not even sure when she was born. She was s model citizen, mother, wife and woman. What's up with that you ancient misogynistic turdso_O:meh:

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    (Who put that there?)

    Oh yeah, so please share your Fulvias, Marcus Antonius, thoughts or anything really about ancient women.
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Awesome job snaring this Gal, @Ryro . She gets bad press, but did a purdy amazing job in a male-dominated world.

    Mine has that Olive Oyl look going on, but I got it cuz of the Lion,

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    RImp Marc Antony 43 BCE AR Quinarius 13mm 1.67g Lugdunum Winged bust Victory-probly Fulvia Lion DVNI LVGV Cr 489-5 Syd 1160


    Wow, great job scoring an Octavian/ Antonius QUINARIUS!

    Buddies... :)

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    RImp Antony-Octavian AR Denarius 41 BCE 3.65g 18.7mm Italian mint star Craw 528-2a Sear 1507

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    RImp Marc Antony & Octavian AR Quinarius 1.58g Military Mint Gaul 39BCE Concordia r Hands clasped caduceus Cr-529-4b Sear 1575 Syd-1195


    And, well, CHORTIVM PRAETORIARVM? FULL STOP for me. Great job nailing THAT one.
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Alright! I was hoping that one would go to a fellow CT-er! What a fun write-up, @Ryro !

    I have a Fulvia. It's not exactly MS-67 -- it's been around the block a few times. Been around more than Faustina II, even!

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    L. Mussidius Longus.
    Roman Republican AR denarius, 3.5 gm, 17.0 mm.
    Rome mint, 42 BC.
    Obv: Bust of Marc Antony's 3rd wife, Fulvia, as Victory, r., draped.
    Rev: L MVSSIDIVS LONGVS, Victory in biga, r., holding reins.
    Refs: Sear 1517; BMCRR 4229; RRC 494/40; Sydenham 1095; RSC Mussidia 4; Banti Mussidia 613.
     
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  5. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Nice acquisition! I've always liked the delicate portrait. I have 3 of these.

    The XL (40) or XLI (41) refers to Antony's age, which is pretty cool.


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    This one is a fouree which was either lost or stolen while at a coin show I was at :(

    Bust of Fulvia as Victory right

    Lion right between A and XL (year 40) LVGV in ex DVNI above

    Lugdunum, autumn 43 BC

    1.37g

    Antony's name is not mentioned on the coin but the date-numeral A XL (year 40) refers to his age at the time of the issue. A similar type was struck the following year which includes Antony's name and titles and recods his age as 41.

    Silver Quinarius fouree
    ex CNG 9/98 #1358
     
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  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Oh, WoWiE! Some lovely examples:singing:.
    Stellar Lion you have right there....though, she has the Olive Oyl look nothing, @Alegandron, that IS Olive herself (and MA's bulky stature would make a pretty good Popeye ta boot)!
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    Yeah, you busted me on the copy and paste from my other my MA legionary on this one (I just love all the CMs, BMs and or whatever else the ancients did to that poor coin). I have changed it to what it really is on the reverse.
    ps, BEAuuuuuutiful toning on that MA/Ocatavian Quiny

    Awww, man! Thanks @Roman Collector!:) I couldn't believe it went for under 50 euros! I have been smoked:cigar: on lesser examples going into into the hundreds! I didn't know she had any denarii!? I remember seeing some of the AE types, but yours is a beauty. You know I like the ones who know how to charm a fella;) and yours clearly knows how to do that. Also, looks like it has a nice toning:pompous:
    Here is my Longus from 42 BCE...wanna trade:troll: What do you mean it literally looks like crap!?:yuck:

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    L. Mussidius Longus
    42 BC. RomeFoureé Denarius AR16mm., 3,02g.
    Radiate and draped bust of Sol facing slightly right / The shrine of Venus Cloacina; a low circular platform surmounted by two statues of the goddess, each resting right hand on cippus, the platform inscribed CLOAC and ornamented with trellis-pattern balustrade, with flight of steps and portico on left; L•MVSSIDIVS•LONGVS around above.
    nearly very fine
    Crawford 494/43b. Former Savoca

    @Jay GT4, I couldn't have put it better myself. She really does look so dainty and delicate. What a WOMAN!
    Yours has a wonderful portrait and reverse:artist:
    That is really cool to know about the coins date being his age! I didn't know that:woot: Though, now I am doubting my attribution as I don't think that there could be a XLI fit on mine and that mine is more than likely XL.
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...when i see that name it reminds me of Dr. Phibes assistant, Vulvania.. marc anthony sol temple denarius 003.JPG marc anthony sol temple denarius 006.JPG dr phibes and vulvania.jpg Marc Antony denarius, miliary mint battle of Philippi, 42 BC
     
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