New Guess the Grade - 1887-s Morgran - Beautiful in hand

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  1. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    How about 64+?
     
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  3. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

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    I almost put in my original post that my vote is 65, but I bet it is a 66. Beautiful Morgan.
     
  4. Jayyk38

    Jayyk38 Member

    Goes to show ya how difficult it is to accurately grade a coin from images no matter how good they are. Nice Morgan!
     
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  5. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    DOES this lighting angle give you any help and/or does it change your mind on your thoughts on the grade



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  6. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    I do not believe its the gouge in the cheek that Details this coin but the long scratch going through the cheek into the hair and well into the cap. I think another grading company may let this go through but not PCGS.
     
  7. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Oh wait... I took Thomas' response as saying my guess was correct. A little premature celebration. Yeah... the scratch wasn’t visible originally.
     
  8. jgrinz

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  9. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Sooooo, my 60 was closer than any one else?

    That's a little tricky there, asking us to grade a coin that you already knew was "not gradable", however, if we expect to be considered good at grading, then there is no reason why any of us couldn't have said the same thing.

    Good looking coin, even as is. I hope you got a great deal on it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2020
  10. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    Good coins sit in these holders too do not by pass them.
     
  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    “Details” because of the scratch is a bit harsh, but the hairlines behind the head are a bit concerning.
     
  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Reminds me of this dollar in my collection.

    It is a very pretty coin, but there are a few extremely light patches of hairlines that are indicative of a “touch-up” cleaning.

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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You also got to add the lifeless high point luster that makes a Morgan cart wheel.
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I don’t understand your comment
     
  15. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

  16. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    And I thought your post (#19) was the answer. I guess we confused each other. I should have noticed your post wasn't from the OP. lol :)
     
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  17. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    I have done it before no biggie
     
  18. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    May break out and take pictures - perhaps the plastic is hiding something ?
    AS a Collector I bought the coin and not the plastic so in the long run it really doesn't matter. You see what I see … A NICE COIN
     
  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Yeah I meant that the coin looks a little lifeless, as if some of the luster was dipped away. It looks a little on the dull side without showing any wear.
     
  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    That is the result of the lighting (especially the full-slab pic). It is as brilliant as any natural Morgan I have seen.
     
  21. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Proves what a slight tilt in coin or adjustment in light can “hide” in a pic.

    Is there maybe a wheelmark across the chin/jaw in the direction of that scratch?

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