I’ve had one of the INS certificates with the filled out grading sheet. It was a cool combo and certainly is worth a premium (especially for a common coin). See coin #8 in this thread: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-lordm-inspired-box-of-20-slab-edition.286751/
I wonder how many people filled out the form correctly... To authenticate and grade a $300 coin cost $15+$5 regular or $15+12 for in-depth or $18 for grading only... A $1000 coin was $30+5, $30+12 or $18 A $1001 coin was $50+5, $50+12 or $25 Oh, and if they happened to notice it was counterfeit, they wouldn't grade it but keep your $18 or $25 as the fee for the other service... How to I get into THAT racket???
All the TPG's do that. And back in the days when they didn't have genuine or details slabs you would get your problem coins back in a flip (bodybag), and they kept your fees for those as well. The fees weren't for getting the coin slabbed, it was for rendering an opinion. I also like how it authorizes INS to clean your coins, if necessary. Ben88, thank you for the submission form image.
Yes, the cleaning disclaimer at the bottom surprised me as well - everything I've ever read or heard advises against cleaning !
Different world at the time... @Conder101 you remember you posted the SAGSE instructions from the 70s that called for POLISHING the coins before encapsulation!
@Condor101 , I found what may be another old "out of business" grading company ??? Miller-Contursi in Newport Beach, CA. (see attached pics)
@Ben88 pls start a new thread (and spell conder's handle correctly if you want to call him out). It's the preference here (other boards are different)
Interesting find(s) https://archive.org/details/envelopereceipts1961cohen/page/n72/mode/2up from https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/547244?page=72
Very interesting! From the serial number of the coin this looks lie it could be one of the first INS certificates. Does not appear to be the instant polaroids pictures that were used on the ones that we have. It appears to be a card with the images printed on it that was then folded over. Ben88 I would not consider this to be a grading service, it is just a flip used by a coin dealership.
I agree... When I read the fine print, it indicates the authenticity and grading will be accepted by Miller itself
