Featured GTG: 1922-D Lincoln Wheat Cent - there's gonna be a fight

As does practically everyone else.

 

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Legomaster1 posted: Can't possibly be AU- too many nicks and dents as well as a weak strike. Not accounting the worn die, there does appear to be some wear on the coin as well. Hard to imagine this would go AU or even MS."

Well, PCGS imagined that it did.

BTY, nicks, dents, and weak strike are what lower a perfect MS coin EVENTUALLY down to the MS-60 level. Nicks and dents Do NOT lower the "sharpness" grade of circulated coins UNLESS you believe in "Net" grading as used by many collectors of copper coins to indicate a coin's value.

 

Okay. Time to fire up the "smile director" thingy for coin photos...
May take a while...

 

The reverse differences in the 63's can be accounted for by a later die state with greater wear of the reverse die. But only photo illusions would account for apparent rub on the cheek and jaw. I won't even get into the nicks and luster arguments which only come into play if you agree with MS.

ps I'm a devote' of EAC grading so I typically grade at least one to two grades lower than TPGs. I believe EAC grading is the last bastion of consistent grading over time in an era of grade inflation.

 

AU58 money sounds about right.

 

Yep. Just as purdy...

 

Vf35 or xf40 late die states the rev die is a much later state

 

Vf35 or xf40 late die states the rev die is a much later state

 

The 2nd "2" digit should be bolder than the first "2" on a true 1922 no D. You have a 1922 Weak D. And, hmm... maybe not quite as high grade as mine.

 

I take it back it's a xf 45 perhaps au 50 but I'll stick with 45 as my final grade.

 

Go read the thread. It graded PCGS MS63.

 

It appears to have some hits on the obverse and reverse of the coin and the wheat lines are either worn or the die was weak. I'm giving it a VF40

 

I often find myself disagreeing with TPG's. They may be good for insurance, but that's about it.

Perhaps they will improve, but I doubt it would be economically advantageous to do so. They just can't afford to devote meticulous study to each individual coin.

 

VF grades go from 20-35. (20,25,30 or 35)
In my initial post my first thought was XF 45. But I can see how it would be AU. Because of the luster and the weakness of this specific date overall.
I disagree with MS 63 as there are too many circulation scratches for me to call it MS.

 

I only clicked once.

 

Oops....I've been away longer than I thought then..haha

 

Marshall, posted: 7, member: "I'm a devote' of EAC grading so I typically grade at least one to two grades lower than TPGs. I believe EAC grading is the last bastion of consistent grading over time in an era of grade inflation."

I have found EAC grading/graders to be very strict and they are usually "right-on" when assigning the sharpness grade of a copper coin. Unfortunately, their grading system "falls apart" as soon as they start lowering the coins ACTUAL CONDITION GRADE for defects. Thus, we see things like a TPGS AU details coin being graded VF-35!

No one can question a KNOWLEDGEABLE collector's personal grade ("I typically grade at least one to two grades lower than TPGs.") but all of you better learn how most informed folks and the TPGS's grade.

 

Reverse is f12 obverse is au so average extra fine

 

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The longer version of "most informed etc..." is: (better learn how) to market grade, due to changes in grading standards/policies implemented by the market controlling TPGSs, or your grades will constantly be lower than theirs.
Or so I've heard.

 

The reverse is confusing.