Dealer, Collector, Dealer/Collector?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kentucky, May 25, 2019.

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What would you consider yourself?

  1. Dealer, I don't collect

    1.5%
  2. Dealer and collector of some

    24.2%
  3. Collector, I don't sell much if any

    74.2%
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  1. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    When I started out, I was an accumulator. It took quite a few years before I feel I truly could be called a collector. I have set up a table at numerous coin shows over the years, but I would never call myself a dealer. Nope, I am a coin collector and that's what I will remain.
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You just described me as a dealer and a collector. lol
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    ...it's a slippery slope...
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Well I slid right on in and I'm ok with that. :)
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I’m a hoarder and I admit it. I happily trade away any duplicate coins I have. I’ve sold only a handful of coins, and am considering selling off more to make room for new stuff. I do not consider myself to be in the “dealer category”. I try to limit purchases “just can’t say no” or “I really want that” instead of “I’ll make a quick buck here”. I’ll end up losing money on future sales of my excess stuff (bad purchases). I just pretend it’s money I didn’t have before and try to walk away happy. I also consider bullion purchases/sales to be investment money and keep it separate from my coins hobby.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I know that hoarder feeling.
     
  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I too am a collector/hoarder. I have two friends that are dealers. Both tell me they do not mix their business with their personal pleasure. Coins are simply business to them both.
     
  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted Supporter

    I am purely a collector, but I usually sell my coins if I find an upgrade. Dealer? No, it wouldn’t be fun anymore as I would need to make money buying and selling coins.
     
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  10. All collectors should sell a coin periodically just to get the experience of it. I think seeing how things feel and work when selling helps when buying. JMO
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I have heard (seen) many people saying that...or maybe just you several times :) the question it invariably raises in my mind is...where? If I don't sell many, does it make sense to try and sell on flea-bay? Sell to a dealer? Sell on CT? I have sold some recently on a bid board.
     
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  12. Anywhere is fine, but my suggestion is to sell in the venues you buy from as that helps with your direct experience. I mainly collect but have sold on eBay, CT, and at shows.
     
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  13. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    If I pay table fees for a table at a coin show,vthen for one, two, three days, I am a professional dealer. If I accept money to repair a neighbor's car or paint their kitchen, then I am a professional for that job. If a journeyman plumber fixes his sink is he a professional if he doesn't get paid for the job?
     
  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I’m a collector who will sell coins I’ve upgraded in my collection.
     
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  15. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted Supporter

    No. You’re just a neighbor who may or may not be qualified.

    Professional: engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2019
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  16. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Despite working full-time in another field, and not strictly fitting Doug's definition, I still call myself a dealer.

    I have undertaken the following specific actions / expenses in order to be effective in this marketplace:
    • Conducted business transactions exclusively through business-dedicated bank accounts
    • Established a dedicated business office space
    • Filed my business annually with the NH Secretary of State
    • Registered my business trademark with the US Patent & Trademark Office
    • Paid for professional staging and photography of advertising imagery
    • Copyrighted my advertising imagery
    • Paid to erect a professional e-commerce website
    • Subscribed to monthly maintenance of the website
    • Paid annually for dealer's insurance policy
    • Subscribed annually to paid business periodicals and memberships
    • Offered for resale every coin purchased by the business
    • Filed and paid my tax liability to the IRS annually
    Moreover, I spend between 24 and 32 hours weekly carrying out my normal business activities.

    I think the foregoing actions go a long way toward differentiating ToughCOINS from vest-pocket dealer status.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2019
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  17. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I think what @ToughCOINS properly described is a professional dealer. I am still conjuring up what I believe my ideal definition of a dealer is, but I’ve met quite a few who don’t do half of those things but make their money selling coins. Some I am unsure ignore they pay their taxes. I think this definition represents the steps we would hope a professional dealer would take, but that not all dealers do.
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Yup, that's front-pants-pocket or better!! :)
     
  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'm unfamiliar with that expression. What does it mean?
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I think so understand but with me it's simple: Left front pants pocket is spend
    Right front pants pocket is keep
    Wallet: Front is keep and Back is spend.
     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Uhhh, if I were you I'd consider the source Mike :D Pretty sure it's nothing more than a play on words - a joke :)
     
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