I saw this and just couldn't let it go. I'm going to have to get off eBay for a while before the wife looks at the credit card bill and sees a bunch of paypal transactions... @micbraun
I've never seen anything quite like that. Did the hub break between the 1st and 2nd strike making the working die ... or did the working die break?
To me, it looks more like it was overstruck onto a similar coin. It looks like the R's and 1's are different between the 2 strikes. Whether it is that or double struck it is a cool piece. I would have bought it.
Haha, I don’t know why overstruck didn’t come to mind. That’s probably the most likely of the cases. Edit: nothing on numista discussing it; I’ll have to look up Kraus if these were intentionally overstruck.
Interesting and unusual! I have never seen this on Scheidemuenzen of the napoleonic era. The overstruck possibility makes sense - or maybe the planchet moving in the die after the 1st strike? This is occasionally seen this on early U.S coppers as well. I looked up my AKS and it does not mention it, (but that does not surprise me since only major varieties would tend to be listed). I really enjoy the small coinage of the German states from the early to mid 19th century. I have picked up some interesting and scarce pieces from Ebay over the years.
Well it makes me happy to hear you’ve never seen it before. I haven’t either. A good friend of mine helped me get a great head start on German States Coins. I happen to have a great appreciation for Frankfurt, since my best friend this side of the ocean lives there and also because they do coin shows there. I’m very much looking forward to seeing it in hand and trying to understand what happened. An over strike almost made sense, but why would they over strike the same year?
This is a minting error that can happen with any denomination. It will not be listed in any standard reference such as an intentional overdate ie.: 8 over 7 does. Your coin apparently did not eject after being struck the first time but did after the second striking while rotating slightly between the two strikings. It is a very nice find.
I share your appreciation of Frankfurt. It is really a Love-it-or-Hate it type of town. I happen to love it. My ancestors lived there from the 1810's until 1944 so I have a family connection to the city. Do you mean the Frankfurt-Numismata Show? I go there every year if I can. This year, unfortunately, I will miss it. I have a small collection of the coins of Frankfurt, Hessen and Nassau. Some of which I inherited from my grandfather. The city-view coinage is very appealing.
So what I'm not understanding is why the obverse doesn't show any doubling on it. It doesn't make sense that the reverse would rotate and show some of the previous strike but the obverse look like it was struck only once. I hope that it might make more sense in hand.
Beautiful Doppeltaler! I love those Frankfurt city views. I hope to own one someday. I'm sorry you will not be there at the show in November; I will definitely be there, but it will be my last year going.
@ Seattlite86 Evidence of the double strike on the reverse is visible on the lower left quadrant ( 6-9 o'clock). You might see more in other areas with a different picture. In this case the eagle is the one I am refering to.
As you face the eagle, look at the left foot. Just below the heel there is evidence of what looks like part of the left portion of the letter "C".