[Ancients] It’s Time! The Second Annual Coin Imperator Tournament (2018)

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  1. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Tournament Update
    Round 1 has officially come to a close. I want to give a big thank you to all of the players. I will be sending out PMs with details for Round 2 over the next few days.

    Below are the results from Round 1. For the benefit of those players considering their Round 2 strategy (and for anyone else who is simply curious ;)) I have compiled a list of statistics for the matches in Round 1.

    The following players will be advancing to the next round.

    @zumbly @dougsmit @Pavlos @Bing @ancientcoinguru @frankjg @Orfew @Terence Cheesman @TypeCoin971793 @Jay GT4 @Cucumbor @BenSi @TheRed @iamtiberius @panzerman @Severus Alexander

    Round 1 Results

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    Statistical Breakdown of Round 1 Matches
    Types of Coins Played in Round 1

    Metal Type

    A breakdown of the metal types and the number of coins of that metal played in the first round is shown in Figure 1. See below for breakdown

    Silver – 19
    Bronze – 12
    Gold – 1

    We had 9 matches where coins of two different metals faced off: 8 with silver vs bronze and 1 with silver vs gold. See below summary and Figure 1 for a detailed breakdown.

    Silver – won 4 of 8 matches against bronze, tied 1. Lost 1 match to gold.

    Bronze – won 3 of 8 matches against silver, tied 1.

    Gold – won 1 of 1 matches against silver.

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    Figure 1 - Coins by Metal Type

    Culture (i.e. Roman, Greek etc.)

    For the purpose of these statistics I have considered Roman to include the following sub-categories; imperial, provincial, and imperatorial and republican.

    Of 16 total matches 9 featured coins of different cultures that went head-to-head. The breakdown of these 9 matches is shown in Figure 2. A breakdown by win percentage is as follows (excluding ties).

    Roman: 43%

    Greek: 80%

    Chinese: 0%

    Medieval: 100%

    Phoenician: 0%

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    Figure 2 - Breakdown of Round 1 by Culture

    Breakdown by Category

    Number of Categories Won

    It is interesting to note that 1 category was enough to win a match as often as 2. Obviously winning all 3 categories would ensure a victory but that occurred in only 18.75% of matches (3 matches). There was also 1 match that resulted in a tie.

    Note: The average margin of victory in all matches = 31.81 votes

    Of the matches where a winner won only 1 category;
    • 3 matches featured a tie in one of the three categories (i.e. both winner and loser won only 1 category)
    • Of the matches where a coin winning 1 category defeated a coin winning 2 categories the average margin of victory was 17.3 votes
    Of the matches where a winner won 2 categories;
    • average margin of victory = 28.33 votes
    Of the matches where a winner won 3 categories;
    • average margin of victory = 74 votes
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    Figure 3 - Statistics of Wins Based on Number of Categories Won

    Eye Appeal

    Average Margin of Victory = 26.69 Votes

    Participants who won the Eye Appeal category won their match 56.25% of the time.

    Historical or Numismatic Interest

    Average Margin of Victory = 28.63 Votes

    Participants who won the Interest category won their match 62.5% of the time.

    Greatest Bargain

    Average Margin of Victory = 19.38 Votes

    Participants who won the Bargain category won their match 50% of the time.
    The less expensive coin won the bargain category 87.5% of the time.
    The more expensive coin won the overall match exactly 50% of the time.

    Voter Participation

    Max. number of votes = 212
    Min. number of votes = 155
    Avg. number of votes = 178

    It was noted that voter participation was not uniform across all matches. I looked at the data that I had for each match and plotted it in such a way that it can be further analysed. I looked at 3 potential causes for the variance in voter turnout and came up with the following.
    1. The number of votes tended to decrease for the matches posted later in the round.
    2. The margin of victory (i.e. close match up) seems to have had an effect but not uniformly across all matches. Smaller margin of victory sometimes corresponded to higher vote counts (such as [Poll-3] and [Poll-12]) and sometimes there seems to have been little to no effect ([Poll-14]).
    3. The number of comments posted to a thread trended very closely to the number of overall votes with spikes where there are relatively more comments and a close match up (see Figure 1)

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    Figure 4 - Number of votes plotted against margin of victory and number of comments to the thread.

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    Figure 5 - Number of total votes plotted against margin of victory.

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    Figure 6 - Number of votes plotted against total number of comments to the thread.

    There seems to be a general decrease in the number of votes per match. That may be readily explained by voters missing matches as all 16 came available. In all it seems that the threads that generate more discussion and comments are more likely to get more votes (and are just fun threads in general). In short... please feel free to comment, discuss or "bump" the matches as much as you like. It seems to lead to higher turnout and lots of fun :)

    A Few Random Statistics
    1. According to my calculations up to 4 people have chosen not to cast a vote in the "Greatest bargain" category in the poles. That means that there is a very slight advantage to targeting the other two categories.
    2. The highest number of votes for a winning coin = 130 votes
    3. The lowest number of votes for a winning coin = 81 votes
    4. The highest number of votes for a losing coin = 95 votes
    5. The lowest number of votes for a losing coin = 47 votes
    6. 11% of people are left handed
    7. Brazil makes up 47.3% of South America's land area
    8. Ice expands by approx. 9% when it freezes
    9. 95% of people who dislike Monty Python have a father that smelt of elderberries
    10. 60% of people secretly like the song Ice Ice Baby
    11. Exactly 100% of the people who have played and voted in this game are awesome! :cool::D
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2018
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  3. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Wonderful competition Curtisimo .. I was on vacation for the first week but still made sure to vote on all match ups using my phone. This certainly has kept me engaged!
    Really looking forward to the next round's battles.. as a vanquished participant I can now relax, enjoy and learn.

    This is obviously a lot of work and I want to personally thank you for all of your efforts.
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    What an epic first round that was! Thanks for compiling those interesting stats, even if they probably won’t help me in my second round match against The @dougsmit. Looking forward to it and totally intimidated at the same time! :eek::happy:
     
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  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Well, that's "awesomely" cool @Curtisimo
    Even though they are pointless, those statistics are very interesting to read :D
    But I don't see anywhere a conclusion about the average age of the winner and how it influences the result :)

    Now that I have read all these statistics I'm even more confused as to what I will be playing in the next round :(

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  6. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    But what is the average air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
     
  7. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

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  8. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

  9. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Ah dang it I forgot to break it down by age, height, blood type and number of freckles on your right hand. How could I have been so neglectful :eek:

    To distract you all from my malfeasance I will point out another stat that I missed. We still have players from 5 different countries active in Round 2 (by my count we had at least 8 in Round 1).

    TEAM CANADA
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    TEAM NETHERLANDS
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    TEAM FRANCE
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    TEAM SINGAPORE
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    TEAM USA
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    So don't forget to cheer for your home team :)
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  10. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Go France Go !!!

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  11. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    I am actually Greek (proud Epirote, decedent of Pyrrhus of Epirus :rolleyes:) but I live in the Netherlands, always hard to decide what to fill in as country.[​IMG]

    And I almost forget to say, thank you Curtisimo for your effort in hosting such an amazing contest! I have learned a lot so far.
     
  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    And please remember last year tournament : as far as the semi-final there were still 4 nations represented : USA, Australia, Singapore and France !

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  13. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Welcome to Round 2!
    We are ready to kick start the next phase of fun with our Round 2 matches. This round will see 16 participants going head to head in the hopes of being named this year’s Imperator Champion. Hopefully we will have just as much fun as we did in Round 1 :). I want to send out another big thank you to all the participants. Below is the Bracket for Round 2.

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    Tentative Schedule
    The schedule may change slightly as required but as of right now I anticipate the following;

    Thursday August 16, 2018
    #15 @Jay GT4 vs #31 @TypeCoin971793
    #17 @dougsmit vs #32 @zumbly

    Friday August 17, 2018
    #7 @BenSi vs #10 @Cucumbor
    #21 @Orfew vs #28 @Terence Cheesman

    Saturday August 18, 2018
    #4 @ancientcoinguru vs #13 @frankjg
    #8 @Bing vs #24 @Pavlos

    Sunday August 19, 2018
    #22 @panzerman vs #27 @Severus Alexander
    #14 @iamtiberius vs #30 @TheRed

    Note to Participants – Changes for Round 3
    Starting with Round 3 I will be throwing a bit of a curve ball at the participants. In Round 3 only coins that have not been previously played will be eligible :eek:. Since the winners of the Round 3 matches will make the winners podium it seemed reasonable to add this layer of additional challenge to the round in order to make sure we keep it strategy focused and interesting into the championship!
     
  14. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Looking forward to round 2. I was a bit worried that I had missed some since I hadn't seen any new rounds in awhile.
     
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  16. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Sheesh, two Canuck vs. Canuck matches?! What kinda hoser set this thing up, eh?

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    The depths to which you 'murricans must sink in order to keep the rest of us from sweeping the medals. ;)

    :D
     
  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I spewed my coffee through my nose. Thanks. I needed a laugh,
     
  18. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Man, how are we to choose between Bob and Doug McKenzie? Is there a Geddy Lee option? :p
     
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  19. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Whatever SA, we all know I'm just the facilitator. Canadians are just looking for excuses to accost one another!!!
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    :eek::eek::D:p
     
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  20. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Lookie what I got waitin' for da p-man...

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  21. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I am withdrawing from the tournament. @Curtisimo knows the reasons.

    Best of luck to all of those remaining in the tournament. I will be cheering from the sidelines.
     
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