What is this?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by DaveyG, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. DaveyG

    DaveyG New Member

    Are the mint people playing around? This is silver, it is two inches square and 3/16 inches thick.
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Probably an Imitation.. Not a US Mint coin intended for circulation
     
  4. DaveyG

    DaveyG New Member

    this is not a coin. it is a slab of silver
     
  5. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The mint people weren't playing around. As @paddyman98 said, it is not a us coin and was not made at the us mint.
     
  6. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    So what's your point. The mint didn't make it. You can buy silver bars. Problem is it doesn't appear to be silver.
     
  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If it's silver then you know what you have, right? Or maybe not.

    Design wise it at best it appears to be a cheap "representation" of an early Dahlonega gold coin. There's all sorts of designs used for generic silver, meaning the only question should be if it's real or not.
     
  8. DaveyG

    DaveyG New Member

    the point is it is it is made of silver. the front is $5 front 1893 d and back is $5 but it is oversized
     
  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yes, we get that and is why you've received answers addressing as much.

    Again, generic rounds have been made with near countless different designs so don't focus too much on this aspect other than if it can help identify it as having come from a reputable source. However, there's also all sorts of novelty crap out there that can have the appearance of being silver. Again again, at this point the real question is if it's actual silver or not and is probably something you'll have to answer on your own.
     
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  10. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    A portrait of Lady Liberty, surrounded by 13 stars, one for each U.S. State in 1839.
    Interesting to see what was going on in that year. First photo (Dageurretype) of the Moon. That year could be seen as giving birth to Photography.
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Not going to bother to look, but I am sure there were more than 13 states in 1839.
    As far as the "silver" piece, it is from a source outside the US Mint.
     
  12. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    I was, partly, wrong about saying there were 13 States in 1839. But in 1776, 13 British colonies, on the east coast, declared independence and formed the USA. George Washington was the only President to serve under the 13-star flag.
     
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  13. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    Kentucky, correct me if I'm wrong, but Kentucky was not one of the 13. Wasn't Kentucky one of the Southern States ?
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Kentucky was the 15th state, narrowly beat out by 14th Vermont. Kentucky never left the Union although I think it is represented by a star in the Confederate flag. I don't fly a Confederate flag anywhere although I think it is an attractive design.
     
  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That's an intriguing item, though not produced by the mint. What its purpose was is anyone's guess.

    Silver, you say? How can you tell? Are there any markings indicating that? What does it weigh?

    It is obviously something privately issued and modern, circa late 20th century. That much is evident from the style, though the design mimics the rare 1839-D half eagle.

    What's it worth? Well, that depends on the silver content, if any. That, and the novelty/curiosity value. A collector of Southern (i.e., Dahlonega/Charlotte) gold might enjoy it as a curiosity- it would make a cool paperweight, for example.

    I just sold an 1842-D half-eagle, as it happens. That coin had the mintmark on the reverse rather than above the date. (That mintmark above the date as replicated on your item was a feature of only the 1838 and 1839 coins.)

    Neat thing ... whatever it is.
     
  16. Bud1 Wilson

    Bud1 Wilson Well-Known Member

    DaveyG...Bud thinks you meant 1839 d.....not 1893 d...getting excited also causes Bud to make a few errors....Neat piece though

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    DaveyG...I think you meant 1839 d rather than 1893 d...you have a neat item you can check to see if it is silver with a simple test. Look it up on the web there are several examples....nice post thanks...
     
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  18. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    Kentucky, "When the Sun shines bright on my ol' Kentucky home". Did you have any reason for calling yourself Kentucky ?
     
  19. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    "Is Kentucky on the Confederate flag ? Nevertheless, the provisional government was recognised by the Confederate States of America, and Kentucky was admitted to the Confederacy on December 10, 1861. Kentucky was represented by the central star on the Confederate battle flag."
     
  20. DaveyG

    DaveyG New Member

    thank you for your help.
    thanks
     
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Actually I was born there back in 1945, but I don't remember it well from then :) I more or less left about the time I was 22 and have not lived there since, but I still have friends and family there. BTW, I WILL stand when they play "My Old Kentucky Home"
     
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