Featured So... these exist: Snake Cowboys

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by TIF, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Objectively, there are two stories with similarities. But It rarely stays objective and thus one or both always winds up being called a myth, which only identifies the belief of the author/teller, not which, if either, is truth or fiction.

    But this is enough philosophy for a coin forum.

    Back to Snake Cowboys!
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Well said! :)
     
  4. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Oh what the heck, I'll add this Vespasian 'snake' denarius to the fray.

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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.27g
    Rome Mint, 75 AD
    RIC 776 (R). BMC 169. RSC 369.
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: PON MAX TR P COS VI; Victory, draped, holding wreath extended in r. hand and palm upright in l., standing l. on 'cista mystica', on either side of which is a snake, coiling up on it's tail, facing inwardly
    Ex Berk 145, 14 September 2005, lot 232.

    An interesting type with a decidedly 'Eastern' influence.
     
  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    What makes the OP coin so fascinating is that no modern person expects a snake to be riding a horse. And then when the religion behind the iconography is explored, it becomes especially interesting! This thread well deserves its "featured" status!

    I don't have a snake cowboy coin. :sorry: The snakes on my coins only appear where you'd expect them.

    --Portrayed with a cista mystica (which is, of course, a basket in which snakes were kept):

    Antony and Octavia cistophorus.jpg

    --Portrayed with Asklepios/Aesculapius or Hygeia/Salus:

    Gordian III and Tranquillina Anchialus Asklepios.jpg
    Maximinus Salus Sestertius.jpg

    If you're interested in learning more about the Aesculapian snake, I direct you to this thread from about a year ago.
     
  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My Grandkids lived in Texas for several years. When my Grandson was young, he would see a snake in their yard and yell "NAKE, Grandu, there's a NAKE!"

    Mysia Pergamon Cistophorus Tetradrachm Cista mystica with serpents - snakes KP 85-76 BCE.JPG
    Mysia Pergamon Cistophorus Tetradrachm Cista mystica with serpents - snakes KP 85-76 BCE
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  8. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    TIF - neat coins, fabulous post, and truly amazing animation!!
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    WoWiE Bing! (Let me just wipe the drool off my chin) The head with the siddling snakes on the reverse of that thar coin, as you know, is none other than Octavia! The sister of Rome's 1st emperor and wife to that fella on the obverse, Julius Caesar's homeboy, Marc Antony. What a story that coin tells. That's a beauty. And in good condition ta booty!
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  11. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I love this gif so much
     
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  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I’m not sure how I have missed this thread for akmost a week, but it has been a fun read. :)
     
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  13. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hey TIF,

    never seen this reverse very neat and extraordinary
    congrats
     
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  14. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

    Long time ago I had one with the snake coming out
    of a basket?
     
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  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    "Cista mystica" (scroll up this page for a couple of examples)-- frequently found on ancient coins. Excerpt from the Numiswiki entry for cista mystica:

     
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  16. coinsareus10

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  17. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

    That's it.Thanks.
     
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  18. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    TIF, awesome coins and animation! It made my day.

    Doug
     
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  19. Prokles

    Prokles Well-Known Member

    Congrats! These are great acquisitions and, btw, your gif is awesome !
     
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  20. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I get to resurrect my favorite thread! AWESOME!!

    I present to you the ancient version of:

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    SnakeMERGE.jpg


    Tag says:
    Domitian -Smyrnia, Ionia
    OBV: bust, radiate right
    REV: Serpent crawls left upon ships prow
    *certainly much more to decipher here!

    **Just received this coin today...I look forward to investigating this coin further - so if anyone has any information - it is VERY welcome.
    Can't see anything on VCoins.. but for me: An excellent addition to my collection - super fun reverse!

    Help me out - or just pile on snakes - it's all good (I don't think TIF will mind)!!!
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2018
  21. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    nice one! commode o slitherer...:)...kool coin man!..:)
     
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