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British 1709 Shilling with the E for Edinburgh. Anyone like to tell me the good news and the bad news about this coin?

 

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AV 1/2 Dukat 1709 Regensburg Mint
Johann Philip Graf Von Lamberg 1689-1712
Passau/ Bistum

 

Regarding "Anyone like to tell me the good news and the bad news about this coin?" ... I'm clueless ... How about a hint?

 

1709 -- Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp, 4 schilling:

 

Well if you look in the book you will find that the 1709 E shilling with no star is a very scarce coin, which should be the good news.
BUT if you look a bit closer, there are hints that this example may not be entirely right: The designs, both back and front, appear to be English Third bust style, but the 1709E should have the Edinburgh bust and narrow shields. So is this an unrecorded variant, or, more likely, a clever concoction where someone has floated an "E" onto an English coin? (If not faked it from scratch?)
I paid a fair price for an English 1709 shilling for it - the seller had not recognised the significance of the E and lack of star - so it does not bother me much. But interesting what the fakers will get up to!

 

War for the Spanish Inheritance.
Carolus III (an applicant for a throne).
II reales 1709.

 

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Based on your photo, I would vote for the floated E. The planchet defects look so correct. But the E appears to have some alternate toning about it, maybe some deeper scratches around it.

 

I'm a bit early, but I'm going to be busy later today/tonight (most likely) and don't want to miss. This is my second to last coin barring any unexpected new purchases.


1708, Spain again (feel free to back up to 1709, but I was too antsy to wait!)

 

1708 also

 

I am glad my 1708 is a fourpence then!

 

1708 -- Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg-Hannover, 2 mariengroschen:

 

The coin which was minted in the besieged city of Lille during War for the Spanish Inheritance.
XX soles 1708.

 

It's been 24+ hours in 1708 so ...
1707-E British halfcrown, S-3605, Edinburgh Mint Scotland, SEXTO

ANNO REGNI SEXTO on the raised edge inscription indicated the sixth year of reign. There is also a 1707 halfcrown with an ANNO REGNI SEPTIMO, seventh year of reign. The SEXTO version is more common.


In 1707, the kingdoms of Scotland and England united to form the Kingdom of Great Britain. After the death of Elizabeth I and the accession of James I to the throne of England in 1603, Scotland, England, and Ireland entered into a personal union, the three remained separate kingdoms ruled by the same monarch. England and Scotland were united by the Acts of Union passed in England in 1706 and in Scotland in 1707, forming the kingdom of Great Britain.

Beginning in 1707 the reverse design for the crown thru sixpence featured a shield of the combined arms of England and Scotland, prior to this the arms of England and Scotland were on separate shields.


The significance of the other two arms on the 1707 halfcrown reverse:

 

Darn it! My 1707 is also a Half Crown but English (lacking the E for Edinburgh) and with the Septimo edge (not shown).

 

This is good, now I can make comparisons.

 

1707 AE Medal by P. H. Müller. 43mm. Julius-1173. PCGS SP64.
On the appointment of George Louis, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg (Hanover) as Commander-in-chief of the Imperial Army of the Upper Rhine. He would later become George I of Great Britain.

 

1707 -- UK, 6 pence:

 

Russia Denga 1707 from Peter I.
Not a coin in the best grade but the only example I have.

 

On to 1706 - here is my offering - a simple threepence: