1911 US $2.5D Gold Quarter Eagle - Thoughts?

XF, but bet the slab says MS64.

Steve

 

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Nope not MS anything...



Just goes to show that one era's horribly inflated FPG grade is another era's TPG grade...

 

Ooohh, I like it!

 

Yes, it's the dark side portion of the spectrum of ACG collection... from when they started life as a reputable Grading Company, to the point where you supply the coins and label and they would seal anything in the slab.

 

They just might have the grade, but I think that one had a bad cleaning attempt. Really bad.

 

Grade is right I still think it’s a problem coin

 

Same here

 

I don't think it would grade cleaned, but I think it would be "damaged" now

 

Probably.

ACG itself started reputably, then discovered market grading... then, well, 'nuf said.

But they also did two other, um, services... for $25K (real money in the late 80s) they would set you up as your own xPG and sell you shells. For some per/coin fee, they would also encapsulate (EAAS - Encapsulation As A Service in today's parlance) whatever you wanted.

In this EAAS world, there were several FPGs and wanna-be TPGs (I think Condor says around 20). There were also some unlicensed usage (First Token is one I have an example of).

New to me, a pair of "Swinehart Numismatics" 1887 "Mint State" Morgan dollars showed up on eBay this month. The seller graciously split them so I could buy just one.

 

Anybody called the number for Swinehart Numismatics ?

 

I'm sure it's been reassigned many many times since the.mid 80s. Do you have the same phone numbers from back then?

 

Well, there's a Swinehart Coin's [sic] in La Verne, CA, and that might well still have had a 213 area code in the 1980s. It's got a 909 number now.

 

True... there's a couple hits in various searches for what's a pretty unique name.

Two people became ANA members, one in 1990, one in 2000. But nothing in the CA Secretary of State Business search (probably predates the computerized records).

A couple auction records (eBay and here: https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/lot/34460284/LotDetail.asp?lid=34460284)

etc.